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I'm actually not shocked judging by that comment that you don't know how pyramid of authority works in most countries, and in this context, the US. Most countr

I'm actually not shocked judging by that comment that you don't know how pyramid of authority works in most countries, and in this context, the US. Most countries (including the US, obviously) follow their laws. Can you please give an example for a first world country that *consistently* ignores it's own laws? History repeats itself because people ignore history, not because people ignore the law.

joe_mamba 9mo ago
Sorry, I expressed my thoughts wrong. What I meant to say was that laws can change overnight based on mob political feels or black swan events (WW2, 9/11, etc.) So just because something is illegal for the government TODAY, doesn't mean it will stay like that for the next 500 years. Laws aren't real, they're just made up constructs on worthless pieces of paper, but the only thing that is always consistently real is the enforcement of the will of state through means of violence and they'll put that in writing to give it legitimacy but ultimately the people in charge of the guns can make whatever they want legal or illegal.
- worldsavior 9mo ago
  You're right, but what do you care what happens in 500 years? The world changes. Maybe in 50 years child pornography will be legal, who knows? It doesn't change based on what those rulers want, because in a true Democratic country, the people rule.
ceejayoz 9mo ago
> Can you please give an example for a first world country that consistently ignores it's own laws? In the US, it's standard to do ten miles an hour over the speed limit past a cop, and there's probably 20 Federally illegal marijuana dispensaries within a few miles of me. Our current President got convicted of 34 felonies, but any possible consequences were automatically voided when he got elected again.
- worldsavior 9mo ago
  There isn't enough men power obviously for every marijuana dispensary, and also for speed violations.
  - ceejayoz 9mo ago
    This was very intentional policy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Memorandum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Memorandum

joe_mamba 9mo ago

Sorry, I expressed my thoughts wrong. What I meant to say was that laws can change overnight based on mob political feels or black swan events (WW2, 9/11, etc.) So just because something is illegal for the government TODAY, doesn't mean it will stay like that for the next 500 years. Laws aren't real, they're just made up constructs on worthless pieces of paper, but the only thing that is always consistently real is the enforcement of the will of state through means of violence and they'll put that in writing to give it legitimacy but ultimately the people in charge of the guns can make whatever they want legal or illegal.

worldsavior 9mo ago
You're right, but what do you care what happens in 500 years? The world changes. Maybe in 50 years child pornography will be legal, who knows? It doesn't change based on what those rulers want, because in a true Democratic country, the people rule.

ceejayoz 9mo ago

> Can you please give an example for a first world country that consistently ignores it's own laws? In the US, it's standard to do ten miles an hour over the speed limit past a cop, and there's probably 20 Federally illegal marijuana dispensaries within a few miles of me. Our current President got convicted of 34 felonies, but any possible consequences were automatically voided when he got elected again.

worldsavior 9mo ago
There isn't enough men power obviously for every marijuana dispensary, and also for speed violations.
- ceejayoz 9mo ago
  This was very intentional policy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Memorandum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Memorandum