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I believe that unless one manages to regress to our primal animal state the brain has a need to think about something in order not to think about self and the p

I believe that unless one manages to regress to our primal animal state the brain has a need to think about something in order not to think about self and the possible dark existential stuff which should absolutely be ignored and avoided. In this scenario the best possible way to occupy the brain is to set goals and build discipline towards reaching such goals. Even pleasurable stuff like music or social connection or even I'd go as far as sex might seem 'not work' on day-1 after you fire yourself after receving the 10mil cheque But On day 60 after leaving work with 10m 1) the 'fucking around' on the fretboard becomes 'practicing scales for at least 30 mins' 2) the hanging out at the bar becomes 'organizing parties in a way to maximize social fun with games etc' 3) the 'ONS from the club' becomes 'trying to find an escort with girl-next-door look who'd also offer Pornstar sex service and greek sex service' Every human endevour of any kind has an S-curve type shape where after a while if you want to progress and get novelty from higher experiences you must apply IQ and discipline and so it becomes a 'work' Leonardo Da Vinci after having signed off all the accomplishments that we know basically turned wedding planner and party organizer in Milan , I suppose orgy organizer too but don't quote me on that, and guess what? After 60 days or so it became a 'job' for him to put the pieces together in a way to reach an amazing social result. Same with today marriages, happiest day of her life? It's the most work of her life too to get those 8 hours or whatever is the party lenght exactly right

saulpw 9mo ago
There are two kinds of work being conflated here. In The Prophet (1923), Kahlil Gibran writes On Work: "Work is love made visible." This is the kind of work you're talking about. However, the OP question is "would you still show up to work?" This kind of work is usually for a for-profit company owned by capitalists, with their time controlled by their employer, and their effort disconnected from its impact (the alienation of the worker, per Marx). It makes total sense that someone would stop "showing up to [someone else's] work" and start developing their own independent work ethic towards their own goals. These two types of "work" are not the same, even if we generally use the same word to describe them.
- JumpinJack_Cash 9mo ago
  > > It makes total sense that someone would stop "showing up to [someone else's] work" and start developing their own independent work ethic towards their own goals. These two types of "work" are not the same, even if we generally use the same word to describe them. I'd say that as far as the extraction of brain juices they become exactly the same after a while and maybe the only difference is a smirk when asked about and replying "it beats working" or "it's a tough job but someone has to do it"
queenkjuul 9mo ago
Nah I've been fucking around on fretboards for 20 years and it's still fun. And at no point did i have some moron manager making me fill out progress reports about it. Doing things you find fulfilling is nothing remotely like working for a profit driven enterprise, unless you choose to make it that way.

saulpw 9mo ago

There are two kinds of work being conflated here. In The Prophet (1923), Kahlil Gibran writes On Work: "Work is love made visible." This is the kind of work you're talking about. However, the OP question is "would you still show up to work?" This kind of work is usually for a for-profit company owned by capitalists, with their time controlled by their employer, and their effort disconnected from its impact (the alienation of the worker, per Marx). It makes total sense that someone would stop "showing up to [someone else's] work" and start developing their own independent work ethic towards their own goals. These two types of "work" are not the same, even if we generally use the same word to describe them.

JumpinJack_Cash 9mo ago
> > It makes total sense that someone would stop "showing up to [someone else's] work" and start developing their own independent work ethic towards their own goals. These two types of "work" are not the same, even if we generally use the same word to describe them. I'd say that as far as the extraction of brain juices they become exactly the same after a while and maybe the only difference is a smirk when asked about and replying "it beats working" or "it's a tough job but someone has to do it"

queenkjuul 9mo ago

Nah I've been fucking around on fretboards for 20 years and it's still fun. And at no point did i have some moron manager making me fill out progress reports about it. Doing things you find fulfilling is nothing remotely like working for a profit driven enterprise, unless you choose to make it that way.