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Its obvious that she was resisting arrest and trying to flee. But as for the ICE agent being in front of the car... barely. I don't believe he genuinely feare

Its obvious that she was resisting arrest and trying to flee. But as for the ICE agent being in front of the car... barely. I don't believe he genuinely feared for his life, he could have simply stepped out of the way. I think he saw the woman fleeing, figured he was close enough to being in harms way to justify himself, and shot the woman because he was mad at her. I've been in situations like that in Walmart parking lots, where a car jolts forward and I have to jump out of the way, and maybe I say "That crazy bitch just tried to kill me" but while saying that I understand it to be a hyperbolic albeit justified anger at reckless driving, and that nobody was actually trying to kill me, and shooting the driver in the face instead of diving out of the way would be a suboptimal survival strategy even if homicidal intent was there.

goatlover 10mo ago
I don't understand what jurisdiction ICE has to enforce traffic laws. We see other vehicles drive around her vehicle, so at most it was a minor inconvenience for ICE. Call the local LE on her if you don't like how she's parked in the road and they can issue a ticket.
- mikkupikku 10mo ago
  Federal agents can arrest people for obstructing them, if you block the road they aren't obliged to defer to local cops and laws, because fucking with federal agents like that violates federal laws. Regardless, none of it justifies a murder.
  - goatlover 10mo ago
    The road wasn't blocked since we see other vehicles drive around her, which ICE could have done instead of escalating the situation as we see them doing in dozens of videos coming out of the Minneapolis area. Keep in mind that the administration is not acting in good faith. Trump has politicized ICE to go after blue cities he doesn't like. Stephen Miller started the escalations when he sent ICE to Home Depot parking lots in LA because his desired quoata wasn't being met.
    - mikkupikku 10mo ago
      If the arrest for obstructing wasn't merited, the right way to handle that is to hire a lawyer. Fleeing the scene in a vehicle is never the right approach in America (or frankly anywhere), it endangers the public generally not to mention your own life in particular. In either case, it shouldn't matter to this case. The man should be put on trial not to decide if ICE's mission is legitimate nor to decide if she was guilty of obstruction or fleeing, but rather for murder. The question of whether he, in that moment, genuinely believed there was a lethal threat to his life is what should decide this case.

goatlover 10mo ago

I don't understand what jurisdiction ICE has to enforce traffic laws. We see other vehicles drive around her vehicle, so at most it was a minor inconvenience for ICE. Call the local LE on her if you don't like how she's parked in the road and they can issue a ticket.

mikkupikku 10mo ago
Federal agents can arrest people for obstructing them, if you block the road they aren't obliged to defer to local cops and laws, because fucking with federal agents like that violates federal laws. Regardless, none of it justifies a murder.
- goatlover 10mo ago
  The road wasn't blocked since we see other vehicles drive around her, which ICE could have done instead of escalating the situation as we see them doing in dozens of videos coming out of the Minneapolis area. Keep in mind that the administration is not acting in good faith. Trump has politicized ICE to go after blue cities he doesn't like. Stephen Miller started the escalations when he sent ICE to Home Depot parking lots in LA because his desired quoata wasn't being met.
  - mikkupikku 10mo ago
    If the arrest for obstructing wasn't merited, the right way to handle that is to hire a lawyer. Fleeing the scene in a vehicle is never the right approach in America (or frankly anywhere), it endangers the public generally not to mention your own life in particular. In either case, it shouldn't matter to this case. The man should be put on trial not to decide if ICE's mission is legitimate nor to decide if she was guilty of obstruction or fleeing, but rather for murder. The question of whether he, in that moment, genuinely believed there was a lethal threat to his life is what should decide this case.