4 ms·

If you are planning anyway to break the terms of the license and effectively steal the software, why even bother paying something for the privilege? Just get it

If you are planning anyway to break the terms of the license and effectively steal the software, why even bother paying something for the privilege? Just get it for free, surely it has to be available cracked

embedding-shape 9mo ago
> break the terms of the license and effectively steal the software We're all (mostly/some) software people here, you don't need to use terms established by the "anti-piracy" firms to make your point, no one is "stealing" anything here, even if they were getting it for free from TPB or whatever.
- renewiltord 9mo ago
  Indeed. But people are stuck on these archaic unrelated terms for now. AI firms will make the whole thing obsolete while luddites cry about “stealing from artists” and stuff like that.
  - embedding-shape 9mo ago
    > But people are stuck on these archaic unrelated terms for now Seen it in media for decades at this point, which makes sense, most people can't tell up from down. What's sad is hearing those things echoed here of all places, a community for hackers, and people are repeating the words of the MPAA.
  - Forgeties79 9mo ago
    >luddites cry oh come on I thought we had gotten past this crap
deleted 9mo ago
[deleted]
prodigycorp 9mo ago
Spare me the morality play. Apple gifted Donald Trump a 24k gold statue! They will gift me an educational discount to Final Cut Pro.
- WmWsjA6B29B4nfk 9mo ago
  There was no morality play. My point is your copy/use of software is equally "illegal" whether you just download a cracked copy or pretend to be an active college student and pay the student price, when you are not in fact an active college student. Either way, you won't have a valid license. So why bother paying?
  - prodigycorp 9mo ago
    I mean, why not? I barely use FCP, sometimes to trim a movie in places. I'm still going to be subsiding other users. I'd rather not pirate.
  - Forgeties79 9mo ago
    This is quite the slippery argument IMO. So it’s not about morality, it’s about legality. But also it’s about paying for a valid license, so they shouldn’t pay at all?
lifetimerubyist 9mo ago
won't somebody think of the poor trillion dollar company!
Fnoord 9mo ago
Cracked software has risks attached to it, such as malware.
qingcharles 9mo ago
When I moaned to the Adobe support person about a recent price hike they said "It's a real shame you haven't signed up for a free educational course online, like the ones from Google, that would qualify you for a student plan. Or have you? I'll wait here while you tell me if you are enrolled in one of those free Google courses. Take as long as you need." So now I'm getting an education too.

embedding-shape 9mo ago

> break the terms of the license and effectively steal the software We're all (mostly/some) software people here, you don't need to use terms established by the "anti-piracy" firms to make your point, no one is "stealing" anything here, even if they were getting it for free from TPB or whatever.

renewiltord 9mo ago
Indeed. But people are stuck on these archaic unrelated terms for now. AI firms will make the whole thing obsolete while luddites cry about “stealing from artists” and stuff like that.
- embedding-shape 9mo ago
  > But people are stuck on these archaic unrelated terms for now Seen it in media for decades at this point, which makes sense, most people can't tell up from down. What's sad is hearing those things echoed here of all places, a community for hackers, and people are repeating the words of the MPAA.
- Forgeties79 9mo ago
  >luddites cry oh come on I thought we had gotten past this crap

deleted 9mo ago

[deleted]

prodigycorp 9mo ago

Spare me the morality play. Apple gifted Donald Trump a 24k gold statue! They will gift me an educational discount to Final Cut Pro.

WmWsjA6B29B4nfk 9mo ago
There was no morality play. My point is your copy/use of software is equally "illegal" whether you just download a cracked copy or pretend to be an active college student and pay the student price, when you are not in fact an active college student. Either way, you won't have a valid license. So why bother paying?
- prodigycorp 9mo ago
  I mean, why not? I barely use FCP, sometimes to trim a movie in places. I'm still going to be subsiding other users. I'd rather not pirate.
- Forgeties79 9mo ago
  This is quite the slippery argument IMO. So it’s not about morality, it’s about legality. But also it’s about paying for a valid license, so they shouldn’t pay at all?

lifetimerubyist 9mo ago

won't somebody think of the poor trillion dollar company!

Fnoord 9mo ago

Cracked software has risks attached to it, such as malware.

qingcharles 9mo ago

When I moaned to the Adobe support person about a recent price hike they said "It's a real shame you haven't signed up for a free educational course online, like the ones from Google, that would qualify you for a student plan. Or have you? I'll wait here while you tell me if you are enrolled in one of those free Google courses. Take as long as you need." So now I'm getting an education too.