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> Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, and MainStage — plus new AI features and premium content in Keynote, Pages, and Numbers — come t
by andsoitis 10mo ago
> Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, and MainStage — plus new AI features and premium content in Keynote, Pages, and Numbers — come together in a single subscription
So Apple is copying Adobe's business model?
- boringg 10mo agoWell really they are copying the original Microsofts suite packaging which everyone has copied over the years! But yes specific they are trying to take market share on Adobe. Its actually like taking on MS and Adobe together... but they aren't really taking on MS office.
- jpalomaki 10mo agoDepends on if you are stuck with the subscription for life, or if there's actually a reasonable way to unsubscribe.
- bambax 10mo agoYou're never free to unsubscribe because you become accustomed to the tools, and use the file formats, etc. (That's why I don't do subscription, ever.)
- pjmlp 10mo agoWhen there are no more new buyers to sell devices, or new versions of existing software packages, the only way to keep the curve growing for shareholders and MBAs is to sell subscriptions. It is also the only way to convince developers to pay for software. Having a part hosted on some server is so much better than whatever anti-piracy schemes one can think of, and provides the continuous growth curve for printing money. Thus subscriptions aren't going away in the modern software world.
- bayindirh 10mo agoNo, all apps are available for purchase for a one time payment. I don't care about video, so I'll be buying Pixelmator now, and maybe music stuff later, and Video part never. So it works like before, if you want.
- bearjaws 10mo agoAvailable for purchase... for now.
- bayindirh 10mo agoThe only "...for now" event I have seen in last 20 years of Apple software is iWorks and Mac OS X become free. ...and they integrated some of the Aperture to new Photos app, which is again was a transition to free. Name me something a product, not a service which you can only subscribe in Apple's ecosystem.
- arvinsim 10mo agoLogic Pro in iPad is subscription only.
- asimpletune 10mo agoThey didn’t take away a one-time purchase option for it though. It just never existed to begin with so the op’s point remains.
- ascagnel_ 10mo ago> Name me something a product, not a service which you can only subscribe in Apple's ecosystem. The shows on Apple TV are only available via a subscription; there's no way to have a perpetual purchase (at least as far as that a la carte style of purchase is perpetual).
- dagmx 10mo agoThey specifically said “not a service” and you brought up a service.
- ascagnel_ 10mo agoI would argue a season or episode of television is a product, and Apple TV gates them behind a subscription. I used to buy the season passes so I could return to shows later; that's not an option for ATV stuff.
- tapoxi 10mo agoYeah but this is $129/yr, that's significantly cheaper
- whywhywhywhy 10mo agoIt’s cheap enough it’s not enough to fund development of Final Cut but also not enough money to bother spending time on it. Find it odd personally, just offering them free to keep hardware makes more sense than trying to push a tiny subscription revenue number.
- anticorporate 10mo agoIt's the problem that the whole industry is facing - the current generation of hardware is sufficient that hardware refreshes will continue to decline, and companies that want to keep milking us for money regularly need to find a new way to do it.
- no_wizard 10mo agoSufficient for whom? At my job they’re still refreshing workstations regularly. They buy and churn hardware on a regular basis. Not quite “buying on release week” basis but some % of employees always getting new hardware at max specs in the design org Makes even engineering jealous sometimes
- alwillis 10mo ago> the current generation of hardware is sufficient that hardware refreshes will continue to decline If anything, Apple is refreshing their hardware much faster now compared to the Intel days. There's literally a new MacBook Pro and MacBook Air every year. And of course there are 3-4 new iPhones every year.
- anticorporate 10mo agoBy declining hardware refreshes, I meant on the consumer side, not the producer side.
- acomjean 10mo agoSubscription model so it’s adobes model. But you can buy “one time”. Though they have a tendency to just end product support (aperture software was canceled leaving a lot of bad taste for photographers that used it) Wonder what Adobe thinks of this. Their support for Mac was pretty important in getting OS X off the ground, now they’re competing with a unified stack. When I was a Mac user I remember buying Logic express 9 (I still have the disk). The price is a good deal, but you really are all in forever..
- Someone 10mo agoFTA: “Alternatively, users can also choose to purchase the Mac versions of Final Cut Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Logic Pro, Motion, Compressor, and MainStage individually as a one-time purchase on the Mac App Store.”
- mirzap 10mo agoHow so? Apple's subscription cancellation is one click away, and you don't get overcharged when canceling.
- F7F7F7 10mo agoAdobe invented subscription bundles? In that sense did the Creative Cloud copy iCloud?