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Isn't Minority Report a documentary about why this doesn't work?

PUSH_AX 9mo ago
I mean technically a lot of countries already have laws against conspiracy to murder, without doing the actual murder bit. And we are broadly ok with this because it makes a lot of sense.
- Tostino 9mo ago
  That generally still takes the person taking some sort of action in furtherance of that plan, not just thinking it.
  - PUSH_AX 9mo ago
    Yeah because prosecution requires evidence. Not because we don't agree with the principal.
- voidUpdate 9mo ago
  I feel like "conspiracy to murder" means "we found a plan of you murdering someone and a baseball bat in your car" rather than "The algorithm has decided you are evil"
ajb 9mo ago
What do you mean by "doesn't work"? Doesn't work to prevent crime? Or doesn't work too suppress dissent?
- voidUpdate 9mo ago
  It's been a while since I watched it, but doesn't it falsely imprison people because they disregarded some of the data that went contrary to other data?
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  - deltoidmaximus 9mo ago
    There are 3 Precogs in the film, but in reality the female one is the most powerful and the twins seem to only function as amplifiers. It's revealed that there is sometimes/often a disagreement between their visions and that they do a 2/3 selection or something like that and discard the disagreeing vision (the 'minority report'). I believe this is what happened to the main character when he is framed, the stronger female's dissenting vision is ignored in favor of the two amplifiers. In the film it is ambiguous if he even commits the murder at all, the guy he kills was paid to die and more or less forces him to kill him in the struggle. There's also the echos of visions that occur which is how the villain manages to get away with a murder, he uses his inside knowledge to copy cat another murder method which allows him to have it written off as an echo. The wilder question in the movie is how the precogs are randomly created mutations in response to the mother taking a weird street drug during pregnancy. They'd have to dose pregnant women and hope they gave birth to more mutants if they ever want to replace the set they have, and I believe they're planning to roll it out nationwide. But given how crappy the precogs' lives seem to be maybe that is just a cost they consider worth paying.
weberer 9mo ago
I don't know if this is a joke, but Minority Report was a fictional movie.

I mean technically a lot of countries already have laws against conspiracy to murder, without doing the actual murder bit. And we are broadly ok with this because it makes a lot of sense.

Tostino 9mo ago
That generally still takes the person taking some sort of action in furtherance of that plan, not just thinking it.
- PUSH_AX 9mo ago
  Yeah because prosecution requires evidence. Not because we don't agree with the principal.
voidUpdate 9mo ago
I feel like "conspiracy to murder" means "we found a plan of you murdering someone and a baseball bat in your car" rather than "The algorithm has decided you are evil"

ajb 9mo ago

What do you mean by "doesn't work"? Doesn't work to prevent crime? Or doesn't work too suppress dissent?

voidUpdate 9mo ago
It's been a while since I watched it, but doesn't it falsely imprison people because they disregarded some of the data that went contrary to other data?
- deleted 9mo ago
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- deltoidmaximus 9mo ago
  There are 3 Precogs in the film, but in reality the female one is the most powerful and the twins seem to only function as amplifiers. It's revealed that there is sometimes/often a disagreement between their visions and that they do a 2/3 selection or something like that and discard the disagreeing vision (the 'minority report'). I believe this is what happened to the main character when he is framed, the stronger female's dissenting vision is ignored in favor of the two amplifiers. In the film it is ambiguous if he even commits the murder at all, the guy he kills was paid to die and more or less forces him to kill him in the struggle. There's also the echos of visions that occur which is how the villain manages to get away with a murder, he uses his inside knowledge to copy cat another murder method which allows him to have it written off as an echo. The wilder question in the movie is how the precogs are randomly created mutations in response to the mother taking a weird street drug during pregnancy. They'd have to dose pregnant women and hope they gave birth to more mutants if they ever want to replace the set they have, and I believe they're planning to roll it out nationwide. But given how crappy the precogs' lives seem to be maybe that is just a cost they consider worth paying.

weberer 9mo ago

I don't know if this is a joke, but Minority Report was a fictional movie.