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Maybe, but that wouldn't explain the disproportionate lack of votes and replies, both of which also indicate a lack of interest.
by JCattheATM 9mo ago
Maybe, but that wouldn't explain the disproportionate lack of votes and replies, both of which also indicate a lack of interest.
- fsflover 9mo agoSome of such articles and comments do get a lot of upvotes and positive attention, if they get to the main page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21656355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21656355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25142405 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25142405 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45053872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45053872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25504641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25504641 Even not very well-written or globally relevant articles on the topic of mobile freedom attract a lot of attention: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44193198#44193459 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44193198#44193459
- JCattheATM 9mo agoFrom your first link the top comment says: > I do not have a particularly strong trust for the (modern) FSF, so their validation adds nothing, IMHO, Most upvoted reply says: > having FSF validation doesn't prove anything but rather may be detrimental, The second link no one is discussing the FSF certification at all, one guy mentioned it in passing and every other hit for 'fsf' is from your username. Third link only hits for 'fsf' are from your username. Final link 'fsf' returns no hits. I think you are conflating interest in an open source and/or free phone with something FSF approved. My claim above was that most people don't care about an FSF approved phone, and your links here don't show otherwise. I agree there is an interest in an open alternative to Android/iPhone, but that doesn't require FSF approval.
- fsflover 9mo ago> The original comment said "We need a third alternative, based on freedom with your device" FSF certification is just one way to indicate freedom. People may not care about it but they do care about freedom.
- JCattheATM 9mo agoFSF has a very strict idea about what constitutes freedom which many people that care about freedom do not share. Hence, people can care about freedom, and not care about FSF certifications or even opinions.
- fsflover 9mo agoIt's true. And you shifted the discussion from general freedom to FSF-certification. I used the latter as just example of how to define freedom and not as the only benefit of Librem 5. People certainly care about freedoms it can provide.
- JCattheATM 9mo agoI didn't shift the discussion. You asked why people were not caring about FSF-endorsed operating systems for phones. I said because people don't care about FSF endorsements. You kept trying to defend that, if you had clarified earlier and asked why people were ignoring FLOSS phones, my response would have been different.