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Maybe PG should try this in kicking his HN habit, introduce throttling features that will increase the time taken to render HN rather than focusing on optimizat

by prakash 18y ago

Maybe PG should try this in kicking his HN habit, introduce throttling features that will increase the time taken to render HN rather than focusing on optimizations, I know it would help a lot of other folks as well ;-)

kirubakaran 18y ago
I hope he doesn't make the site suck for everyone just to "help" the users who seem to need baby-sitters. Suburbs suck for the same reason. I know you are joking but I am really tired of all the Nanny State type stuff. "Oh I am just doing this for your own good. You will thank me later." is one of the most evil attitudes that I know. I am not able to express clearly why I think so and why I feel so strongly[#] about it. May be it is coz I find it patronizing. Also I find it extremely unhackerly. [#] My mind is screaming obscenities and I am feeling pretty angry.
- whatusername 18y ago
  even for kids? Or only for adults? Also - there is something to be said for wisdom.
  - kirubakaran 18y ago
    I am sorry, I didn't understand what you've said. Can you please explain? (I really tried hard to decrypt it btw)
    - whatusername 18y ago
      Sorry for being obscure. I was responding to your line: ""Oh I am just doing this for your own good. You will thank me later." is one of the most evil attitudes that I know." I completely understand your objection to that phrase in a lot of adult situations. (Safety fence after safety fence, stopping people from hurting themselves with technical products, not letting you hack stuff). I get that completely. Lowest Common Denominator design sucks. What I was asking was whether you apply that thought accross the board.. My mind particularly went to a Parent>Child relationship. Learning by experience (ie - getting burnt) is a great thing, but sometimes you can/should learn from others experience. Sometimes someone older/more experienced/with more wisdom -- can stop you doing something for your own good. Perhaps seat-belt laws may be a good example?
      - kirubakaran 18y ago
        Thanks :-) Yeah, that is a totally different situation and I only have knowledge of one-side (child's POV) so far. My thought on the topic at the moment is that parents should definitely safe-guard children from life threatening and other irreversibly catastrophic situations. Other situations will mostly be a judgment call, erring on the side of freedom, rather than caution. As Paul Buchheit said: advice = limited life experiences + over generalization On seat belt law : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation BTW, I live in Washington state, which smothers you with its motherly laws.
        whatusername 18y ago
        I live in Australia - we might be getting a bigger firewall than China's - I know all about Nanny States. When I have kids, one of my aims as a parent will be to try and err on the side of freedom. (Although I can see that will be a hard choice to make at points). Also - this was a good link I picked up off here/reddit recently: http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/ http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/

by prakash 18y ago

kirubakaran 18y ago

I hope he doesn't make the site suck for everyone just to "help" the users who seem to need baby-sitters. Suburbs suck for the same reason. I know you are joking but I am really tired of all the Nanny State type stuff. "Oh I am just doing this for your own good. You will thank me later." is one of the most evil attitudes that I know. I am not able to express clearly why I think so and why I feel so strongly[#] about it. May be it is coz I find it patronizing. Also I find it extremely unhackerly. [#] My mind is screaming obscenities and I am feeling pretty angry.

whatusername 18y ago
even for kids? Or only for adults? Also - there is something to be said for wisdom.
- kirubakaran 18y ago
  I am sorry, I didn't understand what you've said. Can you please explain? (I really tried hard to decrypt it btw)
  - whatusername 18y ago
    Sorry for being obscure. I was responding to your line: ""Oh I am just doing this for your own good. You will thank me later." is one of the most evil attitudes that I know." I completely understand your objection to that phrase in a lot of adult situations. (Safety fence after safety fence, stopping people from hurting themselves with technical products, not letting you hack stuff). I get that completely. Lowest Common Denominator design sucks. What I was asking was whether you apply that thought accross the board.. My mind particularly went to a Parent>Child relationship. Learning by experience (ie - getting burnt) is a great thing, but sometimes you can/should learn from others experience. Sometimes someone older/more experienced/with more wisdom -- can stop you doing something for your own good. Perhaps seat-belt laws may be a good example?
    - kirubakaran 18y ago
      Thanks :-) Yeah, that is a totally different situation and I only have knowledge of one-side (child's POV) so far. My thought on the topic at the moment is that parents should definitely safe-guard children from life threatening and other irreversibly catastrophic situations. Other situations will mostly be a judgment call, erring on the side of freedom, rather than caution. As Paul Buchheit said: advice = limited life experiences + over generalization On seat belt law : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation BTW, I live in Washington state, which smothers you with its motherly laws.
      - whatusername 18y ago
        I live in Australia - we might be getting a bigger firewall than China's - I know all about Nanny States. When I have kids, one of my aims as a parent will be to try and err on the side of freedom. (Although I can see that will be a hard choice to make at points). Also - this was a good link I picked up off here/reddit recently: http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/ http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/