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nationwide protests in the US https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protests-against-ice-planned-across-us-after-shootings-in-minneapolis-and-portland-oregon/ar-AA

by metalman 10mo ago

nationwide protests in the US https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protests-against-ice-planned-across-us-after-shootings-in-minneapolis-and-portland-oregon/ar-AA1TVWrf https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protests-against-ice-plann... https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/ice-shooting-protests-minnesota.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/ice-shooting-protests-... https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/11/us/ice-protests-shootings-minneapolis-immigration-hnk https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/11/us/ice-protests-shootings-min...

logicchains 10mo ago
In both cases the protests won't achieve much because half the population supports the government, and in both cases the half that supports the government is better armed.
- flanked-evergl 10mo ago
  I don't think half the Iranian population support's the regime. Can you share the evidence for this claim?
  - jalapenos 10mo ago
    Unfortunately he's probably right. It's a "better the devil you know" situation, and those institutionally and ethnically aligned with the regime fear its collapse more. From what I've read anyway.
    - flanked-evergl 10mo ago
      This is not evidence of anything.
- spwa4 10mo ago
  I highly doubt that in Iran half the population supports the government. If you hear Iranians it's more like 5%. Even if it's really double that, that's still only 10%. Plus after wars the mullahs wanted that ended in total disaster and enormous numbers of casualties (given that the central promise of islam, of allah if you will, is military success), whilst the mullahs never had real support of the Iranian army, there are now reports of a lot of individual soldiers and even one or two of entire units attacking mullahs and religious schools, killing teachers and students. Oh, and after the recent "success" against Israel, the mullahs once again cut military pensions, with now reports they just stopped paying entirely. Given that it's the military doing the planes, one wonders that if the "supreme leader" runs to a plane if he'd make it on board the plane without a bullet. The government only has the basiji, the "religious army" (technically their name means mobilization of the oppressed, a reference to Marxism, and to who brought the mullahs to power. Of course in practice the basiji is anything but what their name implies, they are the oppressors).
kryptiskt 10mo ago
That's really weak what-aboutism. The part where the Iranian regime is bad isn't that there are protests in the country, It's a human right to protest. The thing that makes the Iranian regime bad is that they are killing protestors.
flanked-evergl 10mo ago
It's so strange. There is a real place on Earth which is much more brutal and oppressive than the wildest fantasy that Margaret Atwood could come up with. A place that rapes virgins before executing them to prevent them from entering heaven, a place that uses sexual violence and mutilation to control women, but if anyone mentions this place or the atrocities occurring there, then a certain element in the west gets incredibly upset and tries to divert attention away from it back to some US domestic local news interest stories. Almost like they are jealous or something. Someone told me with a straight face once that we will one day come to see The Handmaid's Tale as a documentary and not just a novel. A statement that one can only make with a straight face if one is incredibly ignorant of the world. I'm sure these US domestic pet peeves will exist even if some attention is given to the mass atrocities occurring in Iran. Not every local interest story in the US has to become international news. We really don't care.
- metalman 10mo ago
  then lets talk about Palestine, and the people commiting a genocide there, planning to "liberate" Iran useing the same methods many of the people protesting the exectution of Renee Good, are carrying Palastinian, and Irainian flags, as they know the same people are behind ALL of our troubles.
  - flanked-evergl 10mo ago
    Whatever is happening in Palestine will still keep happening even if someone once gives some attention to the atrocities in Iran. I promise you. I also don't know who Renee Good is, and I don't care. Domestic US politics is not really my concern. 1,000 of people being executed because they don't like their theocratic overlords is actual international news.
    - inglor_cz 10mo ago
      From what I gathered, the Palestinians support the ayatollahs because Iran is the only country/organization that still backs their militants unconditionally. Which is also a major source of anger in Iran proper. Not because of Palestine directly, but because the economy is terrible and the regime will still invest into its geopolitical games instead of domestic prosperity. As of today, there is simply no exchange rate for Iranian rial to euro. The currency has entered some sort of black hole.
inglor_cz 10mo ago
Do you expect several thousand killed as well? If not, why do you even bother to hijack the conversation?
jalapenos 10mo ago
I feel the Iran protests have been quite a bit more shooty

logicchains 10mo ago

In both cases the protests won't achieve much because half the population supports the government, and in both cases the half that supports the government is better armed.

flanked-evergl 10mo ago
I don't think half the Iranian population support's the regime. Can you share the evidence for this claim?
- jalapenos 10mo ago
  Unfortunately he's probably right. It's a "better the devil you know" situation, and those institutionally and ethnically aligned with the regime fear its collapse more. From what I've read anyway.
  - flanked-evergl 10mo ago
    This is not evidence of anything.
spwa4 10mo ago
I highly doubt that in Iran half the population supports the government. If you hear Iranians it's more like 5%. Even if it's really double that, that's still only 10%. Plus after wars the mullahs wanted that ended in total disaster and enormous numbers of casualties (given that the central promise of islam, of allah if you will, is military success), whilst the mullahs never had real support of the Iranian army, there are now reports of a lot of individual soldiers and even one or two of entire units attacking mullahs and religious schools, killing teachers and students. Oh, and after the recent "success" against Israel, the mullahs once again cut military pensions, with now reports they just stopped paying entirely. Given that it's the military doing the planes, one wonders that if the "supreme leader" runs to a plane if he'd make it on board the plane without a bullet. The government only has the basiji, the "religious army" (technically their name means mobilization of the oppressed, a reference to Marxism, and to who brought the mullahs to power. Of course in practice the basiji is anything but what their name implies, they are the oppressors).

kryptiskt 10mo ago

That's really weak what-aboutism. The part where the Iranian regime is bad isn't that there are protests in the country, It's a human right to protest. The thing that makes the Iranian regime bad is that they are killing protestors.

flanked-evergl 10mo ago

It's so strange. There is a real place on Earth which is much more brutal and oppressive than the wildest fantasy that Margaret Atwood could come up with. A place that rapes virgins before executing them to prevent them from entering heaven, a place that uses sexual violence and mutilation to control women, but if anyone mentions this place or the atrocities occurring there, then a certain element in the west gets incredibly upset and tries to divert attention away from it back to some US domestic local news interest stories. Almost like they are jealous or something. Someone told me with a straight face once that we will one day come to see The Handmaid's Tale as a documentary and not just a novel. A statement that one can only make with a straight face if one is incredibly ignorant of the world. I'm sure these US domestic pet peeves will exist even if some attention is given to the mass atrocities occurring in Iran. Not every local interest story in the US has to become international news. We really don't care.

metalman 10mo ago
then lets talk about Palestine, and the people commiting a genocide there, planning to "liberate" Iran useing the same methods many of the people protesting the exectution of Renee Good, are carrying Palastinian, and Irainian flags, as they know the same people are behind ALL of our troubles.
- flanked-evergl 10mo ago
  Whatever is happening in Palestine will still keep happening even if someone once gives some attention to the atrocities in Iran. I promise you. I also don't know who Renee Good is, and I don't care. Domestic US politics is not really my concern. 1,000 of people being executed because they don't like their theocratic overlords is actual international news.
  - inglor_cz 10mo ago
    From what I gathered, the Palestinians support the ayatollahs because Iran is the only country/organization that still backs their militants unconditionally. Which is also a major source of anger in Iran proper. Not because of Palestine directly, but because the economy is terrible and the regime will still invest into its geopolitical games instead of domestic prosperity. As of today, there is simply no exchange rate for Iranian rial to euro. The currency has entered some sort of black hole.

inglor_cz 10mo ago

Do you expect several thousand killed as well? If not, why do you even bother to hijack the conversation?

jalapenos 10mo ago

I feel the Iran protests have been quite a bit more shooty