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That's great it works for you. I was basing my comment on an article from a German newspaper that cites an obesity researcher who said that lost pleasure from e
by rumplecat 9mo ago
That's great it works for you. I was basing my comment on an article from a German newspaper that cites an obesity researcher who said that lost pleasure from eating is a major reason people quit:
https://archive.ph/UnjMe https://archive.ph/UnjMe
The evidence still appears anecdotal. They don't cite any studies that bear this out.
- accidentallfact 9mo agoMost people quit, because it doesn't work: https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/2025/aug/14/ozempic-weight-loss https://www.theguardian.com/wellness/2025/aug/14/ozempic-wei... I hoped it will finally shut up those stuck on the dogma, but it seems the denial is far too strong, and nothing will change. And yes, it is a dogma, because no kind of evidence no matter how strong makes people like you reconsider.
- hexbin010 9mo agoFrom your link: > “The meds are highly effective for a majority of patients but there is still a percentage who don’t lose a clinically significant percentage of body weight. Everyone’s physiology is a little different,” – Veronica Johnson MD, an obesity medicine specialist in Chicago > He explained that for someone who is overweight, shedding even a small amount of weight can improve heart and kidney function And, the Guardian is exactly the kind of outlet that would publish "woe is me, it doesn't work for me" stories, as it's their target audience. It's a tool - it can be a force multiplier if you also make other changes. If you just take the jab and do no exercise and continue eating bad, weight loss will be minimal. Yes it's been oversold – just like almost any other product/service that ha an advertising budget. That doesn't mean it "doesn't work" for everyone. Does your car 'not work' because you can't attract those extremely attractive ladies in the street which are often featured in the adverts?
- accidentallfact 9mo agoIt also cites a study which says that the average loss is 5%. That isn't what most people imagine as "highly effective". Weight also doesn't tell the whole story. The people don't get any better, they get (more) starved in addition to staying obese. It's a disease with another cause, hunger is only a symptom. Too much money has been wasted on proving and "educating" people that it's just overeating, while there is an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary. The one that convinced me is horses. Horses get fat, and they need to wear a muzzle that makes eating difficult for them. Otherwise, they eat so much so fast that it literally kills them. There seem to be AREAS that are affected and areas that are less affected. Either there are fat people in the area, or there are no fat peoplle in the area. People who move seem to quickly change weight to fit the local norm. There doesn't seem to be any clear correlation with dietary habits, or anything else that is commonly observed. The entire Japan appears to be spared. It gets commonly missed that it isn't possible to get obese on purpose either. It's hard to eat more, and the body just seems to burn off the excess.
- sfn42 9mo agoThis is a load of bullshit man. Even the article you linked describes lying to his friends' parents to get a second dinner, being unable to have just one cookie etc. The only way to get fat is to eat too much and anyone who really eats too much will get fat. There's a huge amount of people who simply lie or are ignorant about their food intake. Fat people falsely claiming they hardly eat anything but can't lose weight etc. Of course you lose weight if you don't eat. Your body can't create energy from nothing. Without energy you die.
- mmooss 9mo agoThat's not actually what the evidence says, overwhelmingly.
- sfn42 9mo agoShare to share any of it?
- mmooss 9mo agoAlways a fair request. I don't know it well enough or have time at the moment, but afaik it's the medical consensus: Obesity is a disease, (mostly) not a result of behavior. Eating less and/or more activity doesn't cure people; iirc bodies adjust to retain the same amount of fat, etc. under the new conditions.