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Day Fifteen of Iran's Nationwide Protests: Sharp Rise in Human Casualties

41 points by pabs3 9mo ago

metalman 9mo ago
nationwide protests in the US https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protests-against-ice-planned-across-us-after-shootings-in-minneapolis-and-portland-oregon/ar-AA1TVWrf https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protests-against-ice-plann... https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/ice-shooting-protests-minnesota.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/ice-shooting-protests-... https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/11/us/ice-protests-shootings-minneapolis-immigration-hnk https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/11/us/ice-protests-shootings-min...
- logicchains 9mo ago
  In both cases the protests won't achieve much because half the population supports the government, and in both cases the half that supports the government is better armed.
  - flanked-evergl 9mo ago
    I don't think half the Iranian population support's the regime. Can you share the evidence for this claim?
    - jalapenos 9mo ago
      Unfortunately he's probably right. It's a "better the devil you know" situation, and those institutionally and ethnically aligned with the regime fear its collapse more. From what I've read anyway.
      - flanked-evergl 9mo ago
        This is not evidence of anything.
  - spwa4 9mo ago
    I highly doubt that in Iran half the population supports the government. If you hear Iranians it's more like 5%. Even if it's really double that, that's still only 10%. Plus after wars the mullahs wanted that ended in total disaster and enormous numbers of casualties (given that the central promise of islam, of allah if you will, is military success), whilst the mullahs never had real support of the Iranian army, there are now reports of a lot of individual soldiers and even one or two of entire units attacking mullahs and religious schools, killing teachers and students. Oh, and after the recent "success" against Israel, the mullahs once again cut military pensions, with now reports they just stopped paying entirely. Given that it's the military doing the planes, one wonders that if the "supreme leader" runs to a plane if he'd make it on board the plane without a bullet. The government only has the basiji, the "religious army" (technically their name means mobilization of the oppressed, a reference to Marxism, and to who brought the mullahs to power. Of course in practice the basiji is anything but what their name implies, they are the oppressors).
- kryptiskt 9mo ago
  That's really weak what-aboutism. The part where the Iranian regime is bad isn't that there are protests in the country, It's a human right to protest. The thing that makes the Iranian regime bad is that they are killing protestors.
- flanked-evergl 9mo ago
  It's so strange. There is a real place on Earth which is much more brutal and oppressive than the wildest fantasy that Margaret Atwood could come up with. A place that rapes virgins before executing them to prevent them from entering heaven, a place that uses sexual violence and mutilation to control women, but if anyone mentions this place or the atrocities occurring there, then a certain element in the west gets incredibly upset and tries to divert attention away from it back to some US domestic local news interest stories. Almost like they are jealous or something. Someone told me with a straight face once that we will one day come to see The Handmaid's Tale as a documentary and not just a novel. A statement that one can only make with a straight face if one is incredibly ignorant of the world. I'm sure these US domestic pet peeves will exist even if some attention is given to the mass atrocities occurring in Iran. Not every local interest story in the US has to become international news. We really don't care.
  - metalman 9mo ago
    then lets talk about Palestine, and the people commiting a genocide there, planning to "liberate" Iran useing the same methods many of the people protesting the exectution of Renee Good, are carrying Palastinian, and Irainian flags, as they know the same people are behind ALL of our troubles.
    - flanked-evergl 9mo ago
      Whatever is happening in Palestine will still keep happening even if someone once gives some attention to the atrocities in Iran. I promise you. I also don't know who Renee Good is, and I don't care. Domestic US politics is not really my concern. 1,000 of people being executed because they don't like their theocratic overlords is actual international news.
      - inglor_cz 9mo ago
        From what I gathered, the Palestinians support the ayatollahs because Iran is the only country/organization that still backs their militants unconditionally. Which is also a major source of anger in Iran proper. Not because of Palestine directly, but because the economy is terrible and the regime will still invest into its geopolitical games instead of domestic prosperity. As of today, there is simply no exchange rate for Iranian rial to euro. The currency has entered some sort of black hole.
- inglor_cz 9mo ago
  Do you expect several thousand killed as well? If not, why do you even bother to hijack the conversation?
- jalapenos 9mo ago
  I feel the Iran protests have been quite a bit more shooty
roenxi 9mo ago
Israel is openly committed [0] to seeing regime change in Iran; they were mowing down civilian and military leadership just last year. The US got involved. There is the history of western involvement [1] in overthrowing Iranian governments. With that background I'm more worried about what the US's role here will be rather than what may or may not be taking place in Iran. My understanding is that the simulations around an invasion of the country were even more disastrous than the excursions in Afghanistan and Iraq and we really could use some signals of competence out of the US right now. We seem to be dangerously far into a WWI or WWII style environment internationally and we're already past the threshold of nuclear risk that sane actors would accept. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_war [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#Mosaddegh_and_the_Shah's_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#Mosaddegh_and_the_Shah's_...
- flanked-evergl 9mo ago
  1,000 of people are being executed in Iran. 10,000 of people are being mutilated and injured. 1,000 of executions are planned — but you are somehow worried about the US's role more than this? Fascinating.
  - jalapenos 9mo ago
    Nothing says legitimacy like having to shoot people en masse in the street
- jalapenos 9mo ago
  Ok but also the Iran government has not been particularly good right? Like, the previous king was a clown, true, but this regime hasn't exactly been a steward of the people's happiness has it If you picked a random baker and put him in charge he'd do a better job
  - inglor_cz 9mo ago
    The situation with the Shah is somewhat similar to the situation around the English Civil War in the 17th century. The King was authoritarian, but also a bohemian. The Roundheads were religious fanatics. They succeeded in overthrowing the Crown and executing the King, but they also turned out to be insufferably religious. After Cromwell died, the population re-invited the deposed monarch's son back, under some conditions. He met those conditions; his successor did not, but was promptly thrown out into exile, because he wasn't able to consolidate enough power anymore. Unfortunately the Iranian population wasn't able to reconsider their choice after Khomeini's death (1989), because the government was much stronger and much more willing to kill. Also because of the Iraq-Iran war.
jgb1984 9mo ago
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andrewinardeer 9mo ago
The US and AU both have told citizens to get out of Iran in the last 24-48 hours. If they are unable to they should shelter in place. I think it's about to kick off. US: https://ir.usembassy.gov/iran-security-alert-land-border-crossings-january-12-2026/ https://ir.usembassy.gov/iran-security-alert-land-border-cro... AU: https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/middle-east/iran https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/middle-east/ir...
flanked-evergl 9mo ago
Notice how hard people work to burry reports of atrocities that are committed by the Islamic Republic. Things are not what they appear.

41 points by pabs3 9mo ago

nationwide protests in the US https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protests-against-ice-planned-across-us-after-shootings-in-minneapolis-and-portland-oregon/ar-AA1TVWrf https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protests-against-ice-plann... https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/ice-shooting-protests-minnesota.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/us/ice-shooting-protests-... https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/11/us/ice-protests-shootings-minneapolis-immigration-hnk https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/11/us/ice-protests-shootings-min...

logicchains 9mo ago
In both cases the protests won't achieve much because half the population supports the government, and in both cases the half that supports the government is better armed.
- flanked-evergl 9mo ago
  I don't think half the Iranian population support's the regime. Can you share the evidence for this claim?
  - jalapenos 9mo ago
    Unfortunately he's probably right. It's a "better the devil you know" situation, and those institutionally and ethnically aligned with the regime fear its collapse more. From what I've read anyway.
    - flanked-evergl 9mo ago
      This is not evidence of anything.
- spwa4 9mo ago
  I highly doubt that in Iran half the population supports the government. If you hear Iranians it's more like 5%. Even if it's really double that, that's still only 10%. Plus after wars the mullahs wanted that ended in total disaster and enormous numbers of casualties (given that the central promise of islam, of allah if you will, is military success), whilst the mullahs never had real support of the Iranian army, there are now reports of a lot of individual soldiers and even one or two of entire units attacking mullahs and religious schools, killing teachers and students. Oh, and after the recent "success" against Israel, the mullahs once again cut military pensions, with now reports they just stopped paying entirely. Given that it's the military doing the planes, one wonders that if the "supreme leader" runs to a plane if he'd make it on board the plane without a bullet. The government only has the basiji, the "religious army" (technically their name means mobilization of the oppressed, a reference to Marxism, and to who brought the mullahs to power. Of course in practice the basiji is anything but what their name implies, they are the oppressors).
kryptiskt 9mo ago
That's really weak what-aboutism. The part where the Iranian regime is bad isn't that there are protests in the country, It's a human right to protest. The thing that makes the Iranian regime bad is that they are killing protestors.
flanked-evergl 9mo ago
It's so strange. There is a real place on Earth which is much more brutal and oppressive than the wildest fantasy that Margaret Atwood could come up with. A place that rapes virgins before executing them to prevent them from entering heaven, a place that uses sexual violence and mutilation to control women, but if anyone mentions this place or the atrocities occurring there, then a certain element in the west gets incredibly upset and tries to divert attention away from it back to some US domestic local news interest stories. Almost like they are jealous or something. Someone told me with a straight face once that we will one day come to see The Handmaid's Tale as a documentary and not just a novel. A statement that one can only make with a straight face if one is incredibly ignorant of the world. I'm sure these US domestic pet peeves will exist even if some attention is given to the mass atrocities occurring in Iran. Not every local interest story in the US has to become international news. We really don't care.
- metalman 9mo ago
  then lets talk about Palestine, and the people commiting a genocide there, planning to "liberate" Iran useing the same methods many of the people protesting the exectution of Renee Good, are carrying Palastinian, and Irainian flags, as they know the same people are behind ALL of our troubles.
  - flanked-evergl 9mo ago
    Whatever is happening in Palestine will still keep happening even if someone once gives some attention to the atrocities in Iran. I promise you. I also don't know who Renee Good is, and I don't care. Domestic US politics is not really my concern. 1,000 of people being executed because they don't like their theocratic overlords is actual international news.
    - inglor_cz 9mo ago
      From what I gathered, the Palestinians support the ayatollahs because Iran is the only country/organization that still backs their militants unconditionally. Which is also a major source of anger in Iran proper. Not because of Palestine directly, but because the economy is terrible and the regime will still invest into its geopolitical games instead of domestic prosperity. As of today, there is simply no exchange rate for Iranian rial to euro. The currency has entered some sort of black hole.
inglor_cz 9mo ago
Do you expect several thousand killed as well? If not, why do you even bother to hijack the conversation?
jalapenos 9mo ago
I feel the Iran protests have been quite a bit more shooty

roenxi 9mo ago

Israel is openly committed [0] to seeing regime change in Iran; they were mowing down civilian and military leadership just last year. The US got involved. There is the history of western involvement [1] in overthrowing Iranian governments. With that background I'm more worried about what the US's role here will be rather than what may or may not be taking place in Iran. My understanding is that the simulations around an invasion of the country were even more disastrous than the excursions in Afghanistan and Iraq and we really could use some signals of competence out of the US right now. We seem to be dangerously far into a WWI or WWII style environment internationally and we're already past the threshold of nuclear risk that sane actors would accept. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_war [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#Mosaddegh_and_the_Shah's_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#Mosaddegh_and_the_Shah's_...

flanked-evergl 9mo ago
1,000 of people are being executed in Iran. 10,000 of people are being mutilated and injured. 1,000 of executions are planned — but you are somehow worried about the US's role more than this? Fascinating.
- jalapenos 9mo ago
  Nothing says legitimacy like having to shoot people en masse in the street
jalapenos 9mo ago
Ok but also the Iran government has not been particularly good right? Like, the previous king was a clown, true, but this regime hasn't exactly been a steward of the people's happiness has it If you picked a random baker and put him in charge he'd do a better job
- inglor_cz 9mo ago
  The situation with the Shah is somewhat similar to the situation around the English Civil War in the 17th century. The King was authoritarian, but also a bohemian. The Roundheads were religious fanatics. They succeeded in overthrowing the Crown and executing the King, but they also turned out to be insufferably religious. After Cromwell died, the population re-invited the deposed monarch's son back, under some conditions. He met those conditions; his successor did not, but was promptly thrown out into exile, because he wasn't able to consolidate enough power anymore. Unfortunately the Iranian population wasn't able to reconsider their choice after Khomeini's death (1989), because the government was much stronger and much more willing to kill. Also because of the Iraq-Iran war.

jgb1984 9mo ago

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andrewinardeer 9mo ago

The US and AU both have told citizens to get out of Iran in the last 24-48 hours. If they are unable to they should shelter in place. I think it's about to kick off. US: https://ir.usembassy.gov/iran-security-alert-land-border-crossings-january-12-2026/ https://ir.usembassy.gov/iran-security-alert-land-border-cro... AU: https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/middle-east/iran https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/middle-east/ir...

flanked-evergl 9mo ago

Notice how hard people work to burry reports of atrocities that are committed by the Islamic Republic. Things are not what they appear.