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Hacker News supports browsing with a points threshold
- fredley 14y agoJust out of interest, how did you discover this?
- LinaLauneBaer 14y agoI think he may have read the code that makes up hackernews. If I remember correctly its open source.
- jgrahamc 14y agoThat functionality is not present in the release of Hacker News that goes with arc here: http://arclanguage.org/install http://arclanguage.org/install
- aeurielesn 14y agoHe knew about this. Check pg announcement: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1998376 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1998376, almost 2 years ago.
- martincmartin 14y agoBingo. I figured many people either would either have missed that post, or have joined in the last 2 years. Either way, it seems like something people didn't know about and are happy to hear about it.
- ishkur101 14y agoI also like browsing the site in classic mode http://news.ycombinator.com/classic http://news.ycombinator.com/classic for submissions upvoted by long term members
- verganileonardo 14y agoWhen does a user become 'long term member'?
- zargon 14y agoWhen classic first launched, it was accounts older than 1 year (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607271 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607271). It might have changed since then.
- chmike 14y agoGreat option. I was waiting for such an option. Another problem I have is that I keep scanning the front page list of references to see if a new article popped in somewhere in the list between the last time I checked. This is inefficient. My impression is that providing a list of references sorted by the time they reached the threshold would do the trick. Though, this would require a significant amount of work to produce. Being able to precompute the sorted list and share it with many users would allow to cache it. So I raise the question if it is not preferable to propose predefined threshold values. How much difference would it make to have a threshold at 55 and 54 anyway. Let say you propose a treshold at 10, 25, 50, 75 and 100 for example, the pages could be precomputed and cached. A script on the browser side could keep track of the last references seen and show older articles in gray for instance.
- pooriaazimi 14y agohttp://hckrnews.com http://hckrnews.com is all you need.
- lleims 14y agoThat's the exact reason why I use hckrnews.com - to be able to easily figure out what's rising to the top and also to have the most popular threads in chronological order.
- arbuge 14y agoOnly one post crosses into 4 digit territory... http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=1000 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=1000 ...it's an interesting one though. Justifies sticking with HN as your news outlet.
- iamben 14y agoThere's been more than just this post that have got 1000+. I'm guessing this filter doesn't search the entire archive of submissions.
- kgermino 14y agoIt only looks at articles that are in memory. You'll notice that the Steve Jobs article has made it there now that people have been opening it.
- zhoutong 14y agoThat's not true. This one got 4269 points: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078128 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078128 Hint: Steve Jobs
- tatsuke95 14y agoHadn't read that article. Scathing! Thanks for digging it up.
- espinchi 14y agoHere's the recent top ten submissions into Hacker News (all above 440 points). I'm happy to see the top ten has a pretty good variety of topics. * Conway's Game of Life, using floating point values instead of integers (jwz.org) * Show HN: We open sourced Lockitron's crowdfunding app (selfstarter.us) * 37signals Earns Millions Each Year. Its CEO’s Model? His Cleaning Lady (fastcompany.com) * Why is processing a sorted array faster than an unsorted array? (stackoverflow.com) * I Have 50 Dollars (ihave50dollars.com) * Why was a scam company able to raise $76 Million Series B? * The Five Stages of Hosting (blog.pinboard.in) * Where has all the money in the world gone? (reddit.com) * If Software Is Eating The World, Why Don't Coders Get Any Respect? * Hit men, click whores, and paid apologists: Welcome to the Silicon Cesspool (realdanlyons.com) EDIT: As rwos as pooriaazimi point out, these are not the absolute top ten, but only the top ten among the recent submissions. My bad!
- m_rcin 14y agothere is also http://news.ycombinator.com/best http://news.ycombinator.com/best although only recent links are listed on it
- pooriaazimi 14y agoAll of them are recent ones, not top submissions of all time. For example, the post on Steve Jobs's death (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078128 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078128) got 4,269 votes!
- AdamGorman 14y agoFor the lazy: 1. http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/10/smoothlifel/ http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/10/smoothlifel/ 2. http://selfstarter.us/ http://selfstarter.us/ 3. http://www.fastcompany.com/3000852/37signals-earns-millions-each-year-its-ceo%E2%80%99s-model-his-cleaning-lady http://www.fastcompany.com/3000852/37signals-earns-millions-... 4. http://stackoverflow.com/q/11227809/399268 http://stackoverflow.com/q/11227809/399268 5. http://ihave50dollars.com/ http://ihave50dollars.com/ 6. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4592778 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4592778 7. http://blog.pinboard.in/2012/01/the_five_stages_of_hosting/ http://blog.pinboard.in/2012/01/the_five_stages_of_hosting/ 8. http://www.reddit.com/r/finance/comments/utf5u/where_has_all_the_money_in_the_world_gone/ http://www.reddit.com/r/finance/comments/utf5u/where_has_all... 9. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2919708 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2919708 10. http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2012/02/13/hit-men-click-whores-and-paid-apologists-welcome-to-the-silicon-cesspool/ http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2012/02/13/hit-men-click-wh... Original source: http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=440 http://news.ycombinator.com/over?points=440
- danielhughes 14y agoI'd love for there to be a "Show HN" filter as well. My favorite part of Hacker News is seeing what others have built.
- qeorge 14y agoI think the "Ask" link at the top does this - it actually shows Ask HN and Show HN posts. http://news.ycombinator.com/ask http://news.ycombinator.com/ask
- _delirium 14y agoThe "Ask" tab shows any post that has a text body rather than a link.
- eliaskg 14y agoJust bookmark the following URL: http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=%22show+hn%22&sortby=create_ts+desc&start=0 http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=%22...
- fuzzix 14y agohttp://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=%22Show+HN%22&sortby=points+desc http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=%22... Search sorted by points?
- cheeaun 14y agoI always load this page for Show HN stuff http://www.hnshowcase.com/ http://www.hnshowcase.com/
- bhavin 14y agoGreat feature! I had a suggestion: This feature gives you stories 'above' a certain threshold. I think it would help a lot if there was an option for stories 'below' certain threshold. Rationale behind it is that lots of folks here (like me) don't check the New Submissions section regularly and lots of good stuff never gets much love. If there was an option for generating a front page for stories below certain points, a user can review them and upvote worthy ones, which eventually can feature on normal front page. Any opinions?
- sholanozie 14y agoWhat's the difference between your suggestion & the 'new' feature?
- bhavin 14y agoThe prime difference is that the proposed feature would rate the stories according to HN algorithm (taking threshold into account) not chronological order as 'new' does. It'd give a filtered-out 'new' section. As in, a story that is upvoted by 2-3 people and has made to second/third page of HN but never makes it to front page. Few good stories deserve wider audiences IMO.
- sholanozie 14y agoAh, I understand. Wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic in your original post!
- dahumpty 14y agoOn a related note, here's a search tool (though not perfect) I wrote some time ago that helps filter out stories by points, age & #comments: http://searchyt.twittrank.info/ http://searchyt.twittrank.info/
- speleding 14y agoShht, don't tell anyone! I always user Hacker News with a threshold of 100, but the more people start doing that the fewer there will be left to upvote new articles. And then there will be nothing to read or I will need to lower my threshold or wait for other people to do that. Prisoners dilemma.
- jeremyjh 14y agoI'll see your prisoner's dilemma and raise you a repugnant conclusion: I think we get the most total utility if everyone reads lots of low-quality articles and up-vote the few good ones.
- Arjuna 14y agoHere are some fun points-related search queries: Comments with the highest number of points: http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/comments&q=+&sortby=points+desc http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/comments&q=+&... Stories with the highest number of points: http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=+&sortby=points+desc http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=+&#... Users with the highest karma: http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/users&q=+&sortby=points+desc http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/users&q=+&sor... "Ask HN:" stories with the highest number of points: http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=%22Ask+HN%3A%22&sortby=points+desc http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=%22... "Show HN:" stories with the highest number of points: http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=%22Show+HN%3A%22&sortby=points+desc http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=%22...
- hackerpolicy 14y agoThere's no way to get a filtered feed (I couldn't find one), so I suggest: http://feedhint.com/ http://feedhint.com/
- no_more_death 14y agoReally saves time. I used a threshhold of 35 at first, then I upped it to 50. These days you probably want 75 or 100 if you really want to sift through the less important items. Or you can just subscribe to daemonology's RSS: http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/index.rss http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/index.rss. This summarizes the top ten every day. These are most of the important articles; of course you will miss some important things. On the other side of the scale, you should try http://news.ycombinator.com/newest http://news.ycombinator.com/newest every once in a while as well. The fact is, the HN point system ends up filtering a lot of things by whatever's popular or in sync with the groupthink at the moment. Newest can help you avoid this "filter."
- jamie_ca 14y agoI've been running at 75 for the past few months, saves me from wasting _too_ much time here instead of working ;) I have noticed it's a bit quirky though - occasionally I'll have an article from a year or two ago show up on "my" front page.
- jtheory 14y agoI use the daemonology top 10 list, but most days I end up reading that, then also scanning the front page directly, because occasionally there are posts I'd like to discuss -- and if I only see the top 10 from yesterday, the discussion is already over and done. Obviously this defeats the purpose of using a cut-down list to save time, but so it goes; I may try the points filter approach instead of bothering with HN Daily.
- sjs382 14y agoThere are also independent RSS feeds that only post feeds over a certain threshold. I wish there was a browser extension that only showed highly-ranked (or sufficiently new, maybe) comments, too. It would be useful on the comment threads I find most interesting, but probably be too much of a detriment on others to actually be implemented. Wait... did I just advocate turning HN into Slashdot?
- joeshaw 14y agoAnd also Twitter feeds, which along with Hacker News Daily (http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/ http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/) is the primary way I browse the site: https://twitter.com/newsyc20 https://twitter.com/newsyc20 https://twitter.com/newsyc50 https://twitter.com/newsyc50 https://twitter.com/newsyc100 https://twitter.com/newsyc100 https://twitter.com/newsyc150 https://twitter.com/newsyc150 (I find the 100 point threshold to be the sweet spot.)
- sjs382 14y agoI actually subscribe to 100+, 20+ and the regular feeds. If I'm having a busy day (or skip a few days), then I'll just look at the 100+ and mark the rest as read.
- tomrod 14y agoFascinating. Only 2 articles above 3000.
- niels_olson 14y agocould we also get under? Or a range? Instead of just new and top, (and now "over"), we could hang out in the 5-10 land and see what's just above "new". Other people might want to hang out in 15-30 land and see what's decent, but potentially getting untoward social effects.
- joshuahedlund 14y agoThis is cool, and I will probably use it sometimes to help force myself to waste less time, but isn't there some risk of a 'tragedy of the commons' (maybe not the right game theory term, but one of those) where too many people want to see only high point submissions so fewer people are around to vote low point submissions into higher ones? Maybe even some adverse selection where now the people viewing lower point posts are the ones who care less about discovering high quality posts, thereby making it harder for those posts to get high points?
- AznHisoka 14y agoWhen I click on that link.. it goes back to the main homepage, not the article. What gives?
- kibibyte 14y agoIt links back to your main homepage that has been filtered to the articles above a certain points threshold.
- smiddereens 14y agoStill not implemented: Next page that doesn't expire.
- jsdalton 14y agoI'll be the grouchy contrarian and observe that I frequently don't like the more highly voted submissions. Seems the high point submissions are frequently pop science or culture articles (e.g., "Amateur astronomers discover a planet with four suns" or "A Very Unusual Camera That Emphasizes Time Over Space"), while the lower point submissions are articles I actually learn from (e.g. "Exploring the Virtual Database Engine inside SQLite" or "How to do a great product promo video for less than $200"). I get enough of the former on Reddit; I come to Hacker News for the latter.
- larrys 14y ago"articles I actually learn from" I think part of the thing that was great about a physical printed paper (I still receive the printed WSJ and NYT) is that you are exposed to things that you wouldn't normally think you would be interested in (you gave two examples of things that I wouldn't normally be interested in). Because these items are pushed to you and you browse past them. That said it would be nice to be able to identify (ala netflix) articles that you would be interested in. Or at least articles that seem to be of interest to others that pop up all the time in the articles that you read. I've noticed that many of the HN top 20 commenters I never seem comments from presumably because they are posting comments on article that I don't read (or maybe they don't post anymore perhaps). The other thing that is missing from HN is speed. The site is entirely to slow.
- crististm 14y agoExactly my thougth. Most of the time I prefer the mid-upper range while excluding the highly voted.
- thebigshane 14y agoI would like to see a solution that addresses this issue too. Perhaps something like http://news.ycombinator.com/classic http://news.ycombinator.com/classic but instead of users who have been on HN for a year, you pick the users. Some AI programmers might suggest that HN itself could figure out what users typically upvote the same content as you -- no thanks, I can pick them out myself. A tag/keyword system would be ideal but that's a lot of work and tags never seem to turn out as good as they sound. (also, `larrys`, you died yesterday -- hellbanned, and looking at your comment history yesterday, seems like an entirely inappropriate response from the mods)
- Dramatize 14y agoIs it time for Hacker News sub-categories? ie /h/something
- spullara 14y agoSlashdot actually got the deep filtering right. Mainly because that was the only way a sane person could consume it.
- jeyaganesh 14y agogr8. what about new users??
- charlieok 14y agoCan this be used to get filtered RSS feeds?