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Feeling empathy (for a machine) is... psychopathic?

by arcfour 9mo ago

lopifjun 9mo ago
> empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. Does this car "feel"? When these shit suckers peddling these slop slingers want you to anthropomorphize them it's a positive signal to stop doing that.
- lokar 9mo ago
  Having empathy for someone or something does not require the target of the empathy to itself have any feelings on the subject, or at all.
  - lopifjun 9mo ago
    Show me a single source supporting this convoluted claim. > or at all That's called anthropomorphizing, as noted in my gp, and it is a different phenomenon from empathy. > Anthropomorphism (from the Greek words "ánthrōpos" (ἄνθρωπος), meaning "human," and "morphē" (μορφή), meaning "form" or "shape") is the attribution of human form, character, or attributes to non-human entities [0] "There is a medical condition known as delusional companion syndrome where people can have these feelings of empathy to a much more extreme extent and can be convinced that the objects do have these emotions — but it is much less common than the average anthropomorphizing, Shepard said." [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism [1] https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/07/health/empathize-inanimate-objects-anthropomorphize-wellness https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/07/health/empathize-inanimate-ob...
    - lokar 9mo ago
      Empathy is an emotional response people have to someone or something. It is an internal (to the person experiencing it) phenomenon. Feeling empathy does not require the object of the empathy to be intelligent, have emotions, or even thoughts. And it does not require the person experiencing it to believe that the object has the attributes, it does not require anthropomorphizing. People feel empathy towards all sorts of people, things, and groups.
      - appealapear 9mo ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_the_stone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_the_stone

Feeling empathy (for a machine) is... psychopathic?

by arcfour 9mo ago

Feeling empathy (for a machine) is... psychopathic?

> empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. Does this car "feel"? When these shit suckers peddling these slop slingers want you to anthropomorphize them it's a positive signal to stop doing that.

lokar 9mo ago
Having empathy for someone or something does not require the target of the empathy to itself have any feelings on the subject, or at all.
- lopifjun 9mo ago
  Show me a single source supporting this convoluted claim. > or at all That's called anthropomorphizing, as noted in my gp, and it is a different phenomenon from empathy. > Anthropomorphism (from the Greek words "ánthrōpos" (ἄνθρωπος), meaning "human," and "morphē" (μορφή), meaning "form" or "shape") is the attribution of human form, character, or attributes to non-human entities [0] "There is a medical condition known as delusional companion syndrome where people can have these feelings of empathy to a much more extreme extent and can be convinced that the objects do have these emotions — but it is much less common than the average anthropomorphizing, Shepard said." [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism [1] https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/07/health/empathize-inanimate-objects-anthropomorphize-wellness https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/07/health/empathize-inanimate-ob...
  - lokar 9mo ago
    Empathy is an emotional response people have to someone or something. It is an internal (to the person experiencing it) phenomenon. Feeling empathy does not require the object of the empathy to be intelligent, have emotions, or even thoughts. And it does not require the person experiencing it to believe that the object has the attributes, it does not require anthropomorphizing. People feel empathy towards all sorts of people, things, and groups.
    - appealapear 9mo ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_the_stone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_the_stone