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Another question that should be asked is what culturally drives people to want to create lewd content of children and what should we change so that it stops hap
by dpc050505 9mo ago
Another question that should be asked is what culturally drives people to want to create lewd content of children and what should we change so that it stops happening? Obviously platforms should have safeguard against child porn and misogynistic defamation, but as a society we also need cultural changes so that people don't become pedophiles and sexists and that the ones that do get help with their glaring issues.
- BrenBarn 9mo agoI don't think we're ever going to be able to eliminate various sorts of harmful desires and urges.
- XorNot 9mo agoWell I'd say one obvious solution would be to punish a company which deploys a tool to enable turn key sexual harassment at scale. Might send a good message about consent ya know?
- rstupek 9mo agoI think that's a naïve idea if you think punishing a company will have any affect on the situation.
- array_key_first 9mo agoIt will tangibly lead to less CSAM on the internet, so yeah it will have an affect. Obviously we can't just - poof - make people not child molesters or not murderers. But that doesn't mean we should sit on our asses and do nothing.
- buellerbueller 9mo agoPunish Musk; charge him with one count of producing CSAM per generated CSAM image. Charge him with one count of sexual harassment per nonconsensually generated and shared image. Do this in state court, so it is not pardonable. He is hosting a rape room. He has the power to stop it, but does not.
- 7952 9mo agoWhy do you think it is culture specifically?
- johnnyanmac 9mo agoIt's like saying "what draws people to murder"? At some level, on the scale of billinos of humnans, there are simply going to be morally corrupt people. Be it from clinical sickness or local conditioning. We can't "save" every person in this regard. Society can create disincentives, but not cures.
- shepherdjerred 9mo agoWhile I agree with you, this doesn’t mean that the number of murderers cannot be decreased through societal changes
- johnnyanmac 9mo agoOutside of ending qualified immunity, we pretty much have the strongest disincentives for murder out there. The only way from there I'd to have much better mental facilities to identify and treat (but not shame) aspects of sociopathy or psychopathy. But we're still very far from that reality.
- UncleMeat 9mo agoA very large portion of the harassment via these images is very very obviously motivated by humiliating people. The person telling grok to comment on a thread by a woman with an image of her with her clothes off, on all fours, and covered in what appears to be semen is to hurt her. It is an act of domination. She can either leave the platform or be forced to endure a process that repeatedly makes her into a literal sex object as she uses the platform. Discussing something related to your professional work? Doesn't matter. There's now an image in the thread of this shit. This is rape culture. There is no other word for it. Gender theorists have been studying this very question for decades. But you'll regularly find this community shitting on that entire field of study even though I'm not sure if it is has ever been more relevant than it is today.
- frm88 9mo agoTake my upvote and thank you!