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> all presidents have absolute criminal immunity for official acts under core constitutional powers, presumptive immunity for other official acts The Final Sol

> all presidents have absolute criminal immunity for official acts under core constitutional powers, presumptive immunity for other official acts The Final Solution to The Jewish Problem was an official act too. So according to this ruling, you get immunity for genocide. Fun stuff.

FeteCommuniste 10mo ago
Is the commission of genocide a "core constitutional power" of the presidency? I guess maybe if it were spun as "national defense" or somesuch.
- selectodude 10mo ago
  The Supreme Court says that the President (if republican) can declare anything an official act and once something is an official act it is immune from prosecution. So yeah, I don’t see any “laws” stopping the commission of genocide. Trump knows it, too. The only thing stopping him is his own morality.
  - Morromist 10mo ago
    I'll bet he would do a lot more illegal stuff if only his morality were stopping him. He also has to think about what happens after he's out of office/dead, or if he upsets the supreme court enough that they tell him to stop. The more egregious his acts the more likely the people carrying them out will be prosecuted by outraged people after he's gone so it might be difficult to find competant people to do his dirty work. OTOH Even if he did send immigrants and liberals to deathcamps there's no way hard core trump voters would turn on him so he never has to worry about getting removed from office through impeachment with a 2/3rds majority after the midterms.
    - selectodude 10mo ago
      > I'll bet he would do a lot more illegal stuff if only his morality were stopping him. It was a direct quote. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/us/politics/trump-interview-power-morality.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/us/politics/trump-intervi...
- mothballed 10mo ago
  Probably not of the presidency, although maybe one of congress, since it would affect interstate commerce and thus genocide is part of the enumerated powers authorized to congress.
- Volundr 10mo ago
  Commanding the military is a "core constitutional power". Thus he has immunity regardless of if said commands are illegal. He (probably) can't go and shoot someone on main Street as he once bragged, but ordering the military to do so...
- JohnBooty 10mo ago
  That sort of thing you mentioned is always spun as that other sort of thing you mentioned.

FeteCommuniste 10mo ago

Is the commission of genocide a "core constitutional power" of the presidency? I guess maybe if it were spun as "national defense" or somesuch.

selectodude 10mo ago
The Supreme Court says that the President (if republican) can declare anything an official act and once something is an official act it is immune from prosecution. So yeah, I don’t see any “laws” stopping the commission of genocide. Trump knows it, too. The only thing stopping him is his own morality.
- Morromist 10mo ago
  I'll bet he would do a lot more illegal stuff if only his morality were stopping him. He also has to think about what happens after he's out of office/dead, or if he upsets the supreme court enough that they tell him to stop. The more egregious his acts the more likely the people carrying them out will be prosecuted by outraged people after he's gone so it might be difficult to find competant people to do his dirty work. OTOH Even if he did send immigrants and liberals to deathcamps there's no way hard core trump voters would turn on him so he never has to worry about getting removed from office through impeachment with a 2/3rds majority after the midterms.
  - selectodude 10mo ago
    > I'll bet he would do a lot more illegal stuff if only his morality were stopping him. It was a direct quote. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/us/politics/trump-interview-power-morality.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/us/politics/trump-intervi...
mothballed 10mo ago
Probably not of the presidency, although maybe one of congress, since it would affect interstate commerce and thus genocide is part of the enumerated powers authorized to congress.
Volundr 10mo ago
Commanding the military is a "core constitutional power". Thus he has immunity regardless of if said commands are illegal. He (probably) can't go and shoot someone on main Street as he once bragged, but ordering the military to do so...
JohnBooty 10mo ago
That sort of thing you mentioned is always spun as that other sort of thing you mentioned.