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Hair, water, and wind - its crazy how those elements are the things that continue to have levels of improvement for these animated films yet for my eyes i keep

by lvspiff 9mo ago

Hair, water, and wind - its crazy how those elements are the things that continue to have levels of improvement for these animated films yet for my eyes i keep thinking "well thats looks pretty solid to me" only to be outdone by the next movie and go "oh yeah that looks better somehow".

maherbeg 9mo ago
I totally agree. I love watching a small set of animated films over the holidays in time order to really see the technical progress. It's especially fun to go from something nostalgic I loved as a kid, to something I can really see the technical underpinnings of today.
bicepjai 9mo ago
Learning about these improvements gives incredible respect and appreciation for our eyes evolved over millennia.
zeroonetwothree 9mo ago
It doesn’t seem to matter much for my enjoyment of the films though. Makes you wonder why we are investing in it.
- gpderetta 9mo ago
  For the art I suppose.
- al_borland 9mo ago
  20 years ago I was saying this about video games. However, when I go back and look at video games from 20 years ago, I now see why they kept pushing things forward. Graphics were serviceable, but they're so much better now. That said, the game (or movie) still needs to be the most important thing. When a studio tries to lean on graphics as the selling point, it always ends up poorly.
  - Loughla 9mo ago
    >That said, the game (or movie) still needs to be the most important thing. When a studio tries to lean on graphics as the selling point, it always ends up poorly. Counterpoint: Avatar. I have never heard someone say they loved that movie because of the amazing story. They like it because it's very, very, very pretty to look at.
    - shepherdjerred 9mo ago
      I really didn’t enjoy the latest movie, but I’d see the next just because it is visually quite interesting
    - al_borland 9mo ago
      I've never seen Avatar for this reason. It seemed like all 3D hype. However, after 3 movies and 2 more planned, with the 3D hype long dead, are the visuals going to carry a 5 movie franchise from a director with over 20 Academy Awards under his belt? I've been debating watching the movies now that there a few of them out, thinking there must be something there. However, I've never heard anyone actually talk about these movies in real life, which is still a concern.
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      - nomel 9mo ago
        3D? 4DX is the way to watch Avatar movies! I don't really enjoy the stories all that much, but the experience is fun. Although, I usually turn off the water while I'm eating my popcorn.
      - rjh29 9mo ago
        Even with 3 films out the visual spectacle is what brings people to the cinema. That and the fantasy of living in a different world. The second film focused on previously impossible in-water filming techniques.
  - somat 9mo ago
- 542354234235 9mo ago
  Is that true though? Most quality animated features included quality animation. The visuals of the beautifully hand painted early Disney movies were part of the art form. Toy story looks basic to us now but it being the first totally computer animated movie and the visual style that came with that was part of it. Movies are a visual medium, so I guess saying that the visual part of the movie doesn't matter much to you is like saying that the words a writer uses doesn't matter much to your enjoyment of a book.
  - mjevans 9mo ago
    The fact that Toy Story or Incredibles stand up even today, as much as we notice the limitations of the time, speaks to the art and effort applied to what was possible at the time. For as simple as they can be in places, they still used the tools they had access to well. Classics.
- a_e_k 9mo ago
  In the words of Mr. Plinkett, regarding certain movie details: "Some so subtle you might not have noticed. But your brain did." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYx0cqy0WA&t=1266s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYx0cqy0WA&t=1266s) I'd also argue that it's much like movie editing: you tend to only notice it when it's crappy.
cubefox 9mo ago
It helps looking at CGI with a known reference point, like human characters. Every flaw is much more visible than in a "cartoon" like Zootopia.
cyberax 9mo ago
Try watching the first Shrek movie to see how far we've progressed!

by lvspiff 9mo ago

maherbeg 9mo ago

I totally agree. I love watching a small set of animated films over the holidays in time order to really see the technical progress. It's especially fun to go from something nostalgic I loved as a kid, to something I can really see the technical underpinnings of today.

bicepjai 9mo ago

Learning about these improvements gives incredible respect and appreciation for our eyes evolved over millennia.

zeroonetwothree 9mo ago

It doesn’t seem to matter much for my enjoyment of the films though. Makes you wonder why we are investing in it.

gpderetta 9mo ago
For the art I suppose.
al_borland 9mo ago
20 years ago I was saying this about video games. However, when I go back and look at video games from 20 years ago, I now see why they kept pushing things forward. Graphics were serviceable, but they're so much better now. That said, the game (or movie) still needs to be the most important thing. When a studio tries to lean on graphics as the selling point, it always ends up poorly.
- Loughla 9mo ago
  >That said, the game (or movie) still needs to be the most important thing. When a studio tries to lean on graphics as the selling point, it always ends up poorly. Counterpoint: Avatar. I have never heard someone say they loved that movie because of the amazing story. They like it because it's very, very, very pretty to look at.
  - shepherdjerred 9mo ago
    I really didn’t enjoy the latest movie, but I’d see the next just because it is visually quite interesting
  - al_borland 9mo ago
    I've never seen Avatar for this reason. It seemed like all 3D hype. However, after 3 movies and 2 more planned, with the 3D hype long dead, are the visuals going to carry a 5 movie franchise from a director with over 20 Academy Awards under his belt? I've been debating watching the movies now that there a few of them out, thinking there must be something there. However, I've never heard anyone actually talk about these movies in real life, which is still a concern.
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    - nomel 9mo ago
      3D? 4DX is the way to watch Avatar movies! I don't really enjoy the stories all that much, but the experience is fun. Although, I usually turn off the water while I'm eating my popcorn.
    - rjh29 9mo ago
      Even with 3 films out the visual spectacle is what brings people to the cinema. That and the fantasy of living in a different world. The second film focused on previously impossible in-water filming techniques.
- somat 9mo ago
542354234235 9mo ago
Is that true though? Most quality animated features included quality animation. The visuals of the beautifully hand painted early Disney movies were part of the art form. Toy story looks basic to us now but it being the first totally computer animated movie and the visual style that came with that was part of it. Movies are a visual medium, so I guess saying that the visual part of the movie doesn't matter much to you is like saying that the words a writer uses doesn't matter much to your enjoyment of a book.
- mjevans 9mo ago
  The fact that Toy Story or Incredibles stand up even today, as much as we notice the limitations of the time, speaks to the art and effort applied to what was possible at the time. For as simple as they can be in places, they still used the tools they had access to well. Classics.
a_e_k 9mo ago
In the words of Mr. Plinkett, regarding certain movie details: "Some so subtle you might not have noticed. But your brain did." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYx0cqy0WA&t=1266s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYx0cqy0WA&t=1266s) I'd also argue that it's much like movie editing: you tend to only notice it when it's crappy.

cubefox 9mo ago

It helps looking at CGI with a known reference point, like human characters. Every flaw is much more visible than in a "cartoon" like Zootopia.

cyberax 9mo ago

Try watching the first Shrek movie to see how far we've progressed!