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This is utterly delusional. I can’t comprehend of whatever mind virus made it so far into the American political discourse for this BS to still be parroted in 2

This is utterly delusional. I can’t comprehend of whatever mind virus made it so far into the American political discourse for this BS to still be parroted in 2026. I am blessed to be born in and to reside in a country with a comparatively much better-functioning government and voting system. You better believe that if I were American I’d be voting for the dems in a heartbeat. I’d be endlessly annoyed about it, especially compared to the vastly more palatable options where I live, but there’d be zero doubt about my decision. The culture of not voting is the biggest unforced self-own the American public has inflicted upon itself. You all get what you deserve with that one.

spencerflem 10mo ago
I think it’s reasonable not to vote for a candidate that supports genocide. Maybe that’s not a line for you but surely you have a line that cannot be crossed somewhere
- atmavatar 10mo ago
  Neither candidate was ever going to push back against Israel's genocide of Palestinians. While it was very disappointing the Democrats weren't exerting significant pressure against Israel, and Kamala gave no indication she'd act any different, it was delusional to believe Trump was going to be any different. He was very clear that he supported Israel as well, and he went as far as to claim he'd support Netanyahu even more strongly than Biden. Sure, he sabre-rattled a bit about wanting the war in Gaza to end before he took office, but he also indicated he'd support residual IDF actions (i.e., continued killings of Palestinians) within Gaza afterward. There was never a candidate who was going to push back against Israel, no matter how much you or I would have liked for there to have been one.
  - pstuart 10mo ago
    AIPAC has a terrifyingly strong grip on American politics. The only way to address this and other similar problems is through campaign finance reform, which the incumbents will never allow. It doesn't mean we shouldn't stop pushing the issue though.

spencerflem 10mo ago

I think it’s reasonable not to vote for a candidate that supports genocide. Maybe that’s not a line for you but surely you have a line that cannot be crossed somewhere

atmavatar 10mo ago
Neither candidate was ever going to push back against Israel's genocide of Palestinians. While it was very disappointing the Democrats weren't exerting significant pressure against Israel, and Kamala gave no indication she'd act any different, it was delusional to believe Trump was going to be any different. He was very clear that he supported Israel as well, and he went as far as to claim he'd support Netanyahu even more strongly than Biden. Sure, he sabre-rattled a bit about wanting the war in Gaza to end before he took office, but he also indicated he'd support residual IDF actions (i.e., continued killings of Palestinians) within Gaza afterward. There was never a candidate who was going to push back against Israel, no matter how much you or I would have liked for there to have been one.
- pstuart 10mo ago
  AIPAC has a terrifyingly strong grip on American politics. The only way to address this and other similar problems is through campaign finance reform, which the incumbents will never allow. It doesn't mean we shouldn't stop pushing the issue though.