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You're missing some history that pushed former Democratic vorers to vote Trump. Taxpayer funding of NGOs that were writing grants to organizations that were ef

You're missing some history that pushed former Democratic vorers to vote Trump. Taxpayer funding of NGOs that were writing grants to organizations that were effectively censoring onlinespeech. This and the Disinformation Board, and the direct phone calls from US senators and Congressmen to takedown opposition ideas n social media was a direct attack on the First Amendment by the Democrats. Yes Trump's FCC threats over Jimmy Kimmel were also wrong, but he didn't have a government agency doing it to citizens. Trump ended that system. Also, DNC threw working class under the bus and chastise them for leaving the party that screwed them. If sports team politics is what you're hearing, you're being lied to.

senordevnyc 9mo ago
This “both sides” bullshit is so tired. You’re exaggerating and misleading with most of this, but even if all of this was true, it represents about a week’s worth of what Trump has done. They just shot a woman in the face, immediately started calling her a terrorist, and show no intention of even investigating it. I don’t give a single fuck about the DNC “chastising” someone when held up against this kind of slide into fascism.
- throwawayqqq11 9mo ago
  Peek mind virus would be now, to dismiss your rebuttal as "extreme left censorship" or something and not think further about anything you brought up. I have seen this delusional behavior too many times, it is really tiring.
cozzyd 9mo ago
So your theory is that this thing that nobody has ever heard about is what pushed voters?
Avshalom 9mo ago
>>Yes Trump's FCC threats over Jimmy Kimmel were also wrong, but he didn't have a government agency doing it to citizens. so in this sentence do you think the FCC isn't a government agency or that Jimmy Kimmel isn't a citizen?
- marcusverus 9mo ago
  He's clearly alluding the fact that the Biden admin did far worse. The great sin of Trump's FCC was a single ill-advised tweet by FCC chair Brendan Carr... in which he threatened to enforce the law as written. For comparison, the Biden admin's FBI actively engaged in purely political media manipulation in service of the sitting president's campaign, such as when they lied to Facebook (and presumably others) to "prebunk" the Hunter's Laptop story, which directly lead to a near-total ban of a factual news story.
  - throwaway902984 9mo ago
    He wrote that the FCC wasn't a government agency. Hard to argue that is correct, or that their political pursuit of one of trump's "enemies" isn't actually political. It was more that a tweet no, but an interview with Benny johnson, an avowed political figure paid by Russians at one point?
    - marcusverus 9mo ago
      > He wrote that the FCC wasn't a government agency. Hard to argue that is correct You're harping on a detail that hardly matters in order to avoid the broader point, which is rather silly. The FCC is a government agency. Brendan Carr made an ill-advised tweet, which doesn't hold a candle to Biden's use of the FBI to spread misinformation and induce censorship for political purposes. > or that their political pursuit of one of trump's "enemies" isn't actually political. Of course it's political. It's political when both sides do it. > ...paid by Russians at one point Ah, I see that I'm wasting my time here.
      - johnnyanmac 9mo ago
        >Ah, I see that I'm wasting my time here. When you're ignoring the comment talking about people arrested for criticizing a political pundit to argue about minutae and claiming "both sides are bad", yes.
        9mo ago
tsimionescu 9mo ago
Someone would have have to be deeply ignorant to think that Donald Trump, notorious for his numerous lawsuits and public threats to silence any critique of himself in the press, and whose campaign was coordinating with Twitter to take down posts while he was sitting president (just as the Democrats were, but they weren't in office) would champion Free Speech in any, way, shape or form.

senordevnyc 9mo ago

This “both sides” bullshit is so tired. You’re exaggerating and misleading with most of this, but even if all of this was true, it represents about a week’s worth of what Trump has done. They just shot a woman in the face, immediately started calling her a terrorist, and show no intention of even investigating it. I don’t give a single fuck about the DNC “chastising” someone when held up against this kind of slide into fascism.

throwawayqqq11 9mo ago
Peek mind virus would be now, to dismiss your rebuttal as "extreme left censorship" or something and not think further about anything you brought up. I have seen this delusional behavior too many times, it is really tiring.

cozzyd 9mo ago

So your theory is that this thing that nobody has ever heard about is what pushed voters?

Avshalom 9mo ago

>>Yes Trump's FCC threats over Jimmy Kimmel were also wrong, but he didn't have a government agency doing it to citizens. so in this sentence do you think the FCC isn't a government agency or that Jimmy Kimmel isn't a citizen?

marcusverus 9mo ago
He's clearly alluding the fact that the Biden admin did far worse. The great sin of Trump's FCC was a single ill-advised tweet by FCC chair Brendan Carr... in which he threatened to enforce the law as written. For comparison, the Biden admin's FBI actively engaged in purely political media manipulation in service of the sitting president's campaign, such as when they lied to Facebook (and presumably others) to "prebunk" the Hunter's Laptop story, which directly lead to a near-total ban of a factual news story.
- throwaway902984 9mo ago
  He wrote that the FCC wasn't a government agency. Hard to argue that is correct, or that their political pursuit of one of trump's "enemies" isn't actually political. It was more that a tweet no, but an interview with Benny johnson, an avowed political figure paid by Russians at one point?
  - marcusverus 9mo ago
    > He wrote that the FCC wasn't a government agency. Hard to argue that is correct You're harping on a detail that hardly matters in order to avoid the broader point, which is rather silly. The FCC is a government agency. Brendan Carr made an ill-advised tweet, which doesn't hold a candle to Biden's use of the FBI to spread misinformation and induce censorship for political purposes. > or that their political pursuit of one of trump's "enemies" isn't actually political. Of course it's political. It's political when both sides do it. > ...paid by Russians at one point Ah, I see that I'm wasting my time here.
    - johnnyanmac 9mo ago
      >Ah, I see that I'm wasting my time here. When you're ignoring the comment talking about people arrested for criticizing a political pundit to argue about minutae and claiming "both sides are bad", yes.
      - 9mo ago

tsimionescu 9mo ago

Someone would have have to be deeply ignorant to think that Donald Trump, notorious for his numerous lawsuits and public threats to silence any critique of himself in the press, and whose campaign was coordinating with Twitter to take down posts while he was sitting president (just as the Democrats were, but they weren't in office) would champion Free Speech in any, way, shape or form.