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Around here fruit is significantly more expensive than snacks. In fact, replacing the snacks with healthy food in our case increased spending. So it is awesome
by spockz 10mo ago
Around here fruit is significantly more expensive than snacks. In fact, replacing the snacks with healthy food in our case increased spending. So it is awesome that these households managed to cut spendings.
- vidarh 10mo agoYeah, I'm not on ozempic (though considering it, to get the last bit of the way to where I want to be and ensure I don't bounce back, which is frankly a lot harder than "just" the initial loss) but lost 20kg+ on diet changes, and the price of fruit and berries is shockingly high. But my dietary change still saved us a lot more from cutting takeaways alone...
- calpaterson 10mo ago> fruit is significantly more expensive than snacks This is a commonly repeated claim but it's usually not true. Fruit is, in fact, pretty cheap: In the US, bananas average $1.68/kilo: https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=118 https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings... A kilo is usually ~6 bananas. So a banana costs maybe 28c on average. Find a cost-competitive ultra-processed snack for the calories and satiety that a banana provides. Healthy eating might not is cheap but junk food, specifically, is not usually a cost optimisation.
- eru 10mo agoWell, some fruits are cheap. But there's plenty of expensive fruits that people might want to eat, too.
- mrits 10mo agoThere are plenty of expensive snacks.
- zahlman 10mo ago> In the US, bananas average $1.68/kilo: That's definitely not something I expected to be cheaper in Canada than the US.
- stevenwoo 9mo agoWhere I am in California it’s .99 cents per pound or 2.18 per kilogram at Safeway/Albertsons and slightly less at Trader Joe’s and Target, depending upon size.
- astrange 9mo agoWhy is fruit the example of a healthy snack? Fruits are full of fructose, which is enemy #1 for weight loss.
- julianz 9mo agoNot so much when you consume it along with the fibre which is typically also included in the fruit.
- potamic 9mo agoEverything in moderation. An understated benefit of fruit is their prebiotic nature which promotes a healthy gut. A lot of healthy eating advice is settling down towards one idea. Eat a wide range of raw and fermented plant food.
- pixl97 9mo agoThis leaves out spoilage. Fruit is a pain in the ass to get enough of without running out before the next shopping trip or having it rot. I think a lot of people that say quickly perishable items are cheap shop every few days and buy in small quantities.
- amrocha 9mo agoYes, that’s how you should live if you want to be healthy. If the place where you live doesn’t allow that, then you’re sacrificing your health to live there. That’s your choice at the end of the day, but don’t make excuses for why you choose to eat garbage all day.
- cthalupa 9mo agoBeing able to just up and move to a place that makes it more viable to grocery shop multiple times a week involves a certain level of affluence that a lot of people don't have. It is not a generalizable answer to this problem.
- amrocha 9mo agoReality doesn’t care about whether it’s generalizable or not, it only cares about the truth. And the truth is that your suburbs are killing you.
- cthalupa 9mo agoReality also doesn't care about an answer if it is impractical for a huge number of people. There are a variety of different answers to the problem and you pick the ones that are applicable to you and work from there Telling someone who can't afford to move to the city that they just need to move the city to solve their health problem is a waste of time for you and them.
- amrocha 9mo agoThe answer applicable to individuals is to leave the suburbs and move to a city. The answer applicable to the government is to build better cities. The answer is never stay in the suburbs but take drugs the rest of your life and spend the end of your life miserably unhealthy. You’re free to do that if you want to, you just can’t pretend it’s healthy.
- spockz 9mo agoI’m not in the US but in the Netherlands. Bananas are indeed pretty cheap kilo wise, currently about €2,50. Apples and pears are next at about €3,50. Strawberries in season are about €10/kg. Green kiwi is €5/kg, gold kiwi is €10/kg. Mangos are extremely cheap now at €1,39/piece. Having enough fruit for a family for a week, indeed as a sibling posted, accounting for spoilage or just bad items in the delivery, takes a substantial amount. In volume and in cost. On the other hand, crappy snacks are typically <€1 or <€2 per kg. We make the choice to buy fruit. But also we are well off enough to be able to do so consistently. There are also other costs of having to spend more time getting the fruit, preparing it for the kids to take to school. Not everyone has the time or sees the opportunity to do so. I’m very reluctant to just blame those people and say it is their choice to eat crappy food.
- bluedino 10mo agoI can buy a bag of apples for less than what a pack of Little Debbie snacks cost.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 10mo agoI decided to check one of my local grocery stores because I honestly wasn't sure where they stood relative to each other. Most Little Debbie varieties, for a standard package containing 6 or 12 items depending on the size of the items, are listed at $3.19. Apples are commonly sold in 3 pound bags, which the internet suggests would contain 6-12 apples depending on the variety of apple and individual sizing. The 3 pound bag seems like a reasonable comparison to the standard Little Debbie packages, as it's 6-12 "snacks" in either case. The cheapest option is Red Delicious at $3.99. You can spend up to $6.99 for 3 pounds of a more premium variety. Little Debbies cost $0.26 to $0.53 per snack. Cheap apples are $0.33 to $0.66 per. The advantage is also present with larger quantities. A large package of Little Debbie snacks costs $5.49, and a 5lb bag of Red Delicious apples costs $5.99. You're getting 2x the Little Debbie snacks in the larger package, but you're only getting 66% more apples in a 5lb bag. At the larger quantity, LD's per snack price range is $0.23 to $0.45. Red Delicious apples are $0.30 to $0.60.
- threetonesun 10mo agoCalorie wise you'd need to 2-3 apples to equal most Little Debbie snacks, but in terms of satiation the opposite is true.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 10mo agoI don't disagree. I was responding to the specific claim in the post I replied to: > I can buy a bag of apples for less than what a pack of Little Debbie snacks cost. Satiety was not part of the post I replied to.
- bluedino 10mo agoMaybe I should have compared individuals then. One apple can be had for less than dollar and one snack cake is over a dollar Either way people should be eating apples, bananas, pears (as well as cheese, nuts...), instead of snack cakes.