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Trump still has plenty of support from large swathes of Americans despite his increasingly more overt actions. For many, he _is_ doing what he was elected to d

by maest 9mo ago

Trump still has plenty of support from large swathes of Americans despite his increasingly more overt actions. For many, he _is_ doing what he was elected to do. This _is_ what the American voter wants. The American voter wants illegal immigrants out, does not care how it happens. They also want cheap oil and are willing to overlook the implications of international military action if it means they get it. They also don't care about the environment enough to curb their consumption or invest in alternative energy sources. These preferences are all aligned with Trump's actions.

tharmas 9mo ago
All true but what about his proposal to increase defense spending by a Whopping $500 Billion? Are his supporters 'down' with that?
- AnimalMuppet 9mo ago
  Is Congress down with that? Down enough to actually pass a budget that contains it?
  - johnnyanmac 9mo ago
    Immigration, no. Oil, maybe. I don't think any of congress wants to risk escalation to a war on top of all the situations stacked up today.
- CamperBob2 9mo ago
  As long as it hurts "those people" more than it hurts them... hell, yeah! MAGA is not about policy, it's about stigginit. To borrow a line from Anthony Burgess, it's old age having a go at youth.
- ryandrake 9mo ago
  His supporters are down with whatever he says needs to be done. It's about him--there's no ideological consistency at all. As long as he's for it today, his supporters are for it today. If he's against it tomorrow, they will immediately fall in line and be against it tomorrow.
  - NickC25 9mo ago
    This is why he's a Republican. He said it in his book (who knows if he actually wrote it) that if he ever ran, he'd run as a Republican because they don't think, they just fall in line.
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throwawayqqq11 9mo ago
... and many just post-hoc rationalize their already irrational decision to vote for him. If you would ask them, illegal farm workers are still very welcome in red states, i guess.
watwut 9mo ago
Minnesota occupation is not about illegal immigration. It is about terrorizing a blue city. It is about terrorizing non whites regardless of citizenship. I agree that Trump voters want that. But, we should not lie about them caring about illegal immigration or "not caring about the method". They care. If Trumps thugs murder, beat or kidnap people, if non whites and suspect liberals suffer, they actually prefer it. Trump voters prefer it when an agent throws a tear gas into a car or on the crowd just as a goodbye package. > They also want cheap oil Oil is so cheap, oil companies are slightly at loss when producing it.

by maest 9mo ago

tharmas 9mo ago

All true but what about his proposal to increase defense spending by a Whopping $500 Billion? Are his supporters 'down' with that?

AnimalMuppet 9mo ago
Is Congress down with that? Down enough to actually pass a budget that contains it?
- johnnyanmac 9mo ago
  Immigration, no. Oil, maybe. I don't think any of congress wants to risk escalation to a war on top of all the situations stacked up today.
CamperBob2 9mo ago
As long as it hurts "those people" more than it hurts them... hell, yeah! MAGA is not about policy, it's about stigginit. To borrow a line from Anthony Burgess, it's old age having a go at youth.
ryandrake 9mo ago
His supporters are down with whatever he says needs to be done. It's about him--there's no ideological consistency at all. As long as he's for it today, his supporters are for it today. If he's against it tomorrow, they will immediately fall in line and be against it tomorrow.
- NickC25 9mo ago
  This is why he's a Republican. He said it in his book (who knows if he actually wrote it) that if he ever ran, he'd run as a Republican because they don't think, they just fall in line.
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throwawayqqq11 9mo ago

... and many just post-hoc rationalize their already irrational decision to vote for him. If you would ask them, illegal farm workers are still very welcome in red states, i guess.

watwut 9mo ago

Minnesota occupation is not about illegal immigration. It is about terrorizing a blue city. It is about terrorizing non whites regardless of citizenship. I agree that Trump voters want that. But, we should not lie about them caring about illegal immigration or "not caring about the method". They care. If Trumps thugs murder, beat or kidnap people, if non whites and suspect liberals suffer, they actually prefer it. Trump voters prefer it when an agent throws a tear gas into a car or on the crowd just as a goodbye package. > They also want cheap oil Oil is so cheap, oil companies are slightly at loss when producing it.