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These are all before the 2024 election: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-could-try-buy-greenland-once-more-1878583 https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-c

by croon 9mo ago

These are all before the 2024 election: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-could-try-buy-greenland-once-more-1878583 https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-could-try-buy-greenlan... https://www.wired.com/story/trump-cia-venezuela-maduro-regime-change-plot/ https://www.wired.com/story/trump-cia-venezuela-maduro-regim... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-trumps-wish-for-more-federal-reserve-control-could-impact-economy-if-hes-reelected https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-trumps-wish-for-more-f... https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/mrcbg/publications/end-federal-reserve-we-know-it https://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/mrcbg/publications/end-f... Trump voters are either willfully ignorant or gleefully supportive. Maybe not the first time, but definitely the second and third time. There no longer exists other excuses.

rhubarbtree 9mo ago
Are those links to a manifesto? You haven't answered my other points. It's just post-hoc rationalisation because you're angry.
- croon 9mo ago
  It's not post-hoc if it was telegraphed before the election. I knew it then, as did everyone with a modicum of interest in current events. Regarding your other points, I'm not sure I have to, but here goes: 1) I'd be keen to hear how they voted for the least worst option, on specifics. 2) Not voting is voting for whoever wins in the described two party system. At least that's how I see the trolley problem. 3) Then they weren't paying attention, but at least they can be honest when they're affected personally.
- ajross 9mo ago
  > Are those links to a manifesto? Statements about policy goals can only debated if... they appear in a "manifesto"? With all respect: WTactualF? Trump didn't even have a manifesto! This is just a license to excuse whatever vote you want. The obvious truth is that the guy is an intemperate loon, has always been an intemperate loon, and is behaving like an intemperate loon in office, and along policy axes that you could absolutely see ahead of time.
- immibis 9mo ago
  Here's the manifesto: https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeade...
nathan_compton 9mo ago
Propagandized to by targeted media.

by croon 9mo ago

rhubarbtree 9mo ago

Are those links to a manifesto? You haven't answered my other points. It's just post-hoc rationalisation because you're angry.

croon 9mo ago
It's not post-hoc if it was telegraphed before the election. I knew it then, as did everyone with a modicum of interest in current events. Regarding your other points, I'm not sure I have to, but here goes: 1) I'd be keen to hear how they voted for the least worst option, on specifics. 2) Not voting is voting for whoever wins in the described two party system. At least that's how I see the trolley problem. 3) Then they weren't paying attention, but at least they can be honest when they're affected personally.
ajross 9mo ago
> Are those links to a manifesto? Statements about policy goals can only debated if... they appear in a "manifesto"? With all respect: WTactualF? Trump didn't even have a manifesto! This is just a license to excuse whatever vote you want. The obvious truth is that the guy is an intemperate loon, has always been an intemperate loon, and is behaving like an intemperate loon in office, and along policy axes that you could absolutely see ahead of time.
immibis 9mo ago
Here's the manifesto: https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeade...

nathan_compton 9mo ago

Propagandized to by targeted media.