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I'm a longtime fan of XFCE. I try all sorts of DEs from time to time on spare computers, but I reliably come back to XFCE, which is really just a fairly low-res
by liampulles 9mo ago
I'm a longtime fan of XFCE. I try all sorts of DEs from time to time on spare computers, but I reliably come back to XFCE, which is really just a fairly low-resource, stable embodiment of the classic GNOME feel. I used mainline Ubuntu for a few years until they released GNOME 3 (which I hated then and hate now) and then I switched to Xubuntu and was happy again.
I made a conscious decision a few years ago (after trying yet another distro that went tits up), I was going to stop playing around WITH linux and start playing around ON linux for computers that I needed to get actual work done on. If one wants a classic Linux feel that is fairly stable, XFCE and a Debian base is pretty good for that.
I am a little concerned about the whole Wayland situation, since the XFCE team seems to be taking a fairly anti-Wayland stance at the moment. It has forced me to manually move from Wayland back to X11 on new installs to get a relaible experience, which is not reliably straightforward and seemingly may become more problematic as time progresses.
- davidgerard 9mo agothey're actively working on Wayland and very much want it to work well there? https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap One problem is I think Xfce has no paid developers, it's all spare time.
- pamcake 9mo agoYeah, my worry has recently been the opposite: That at least from afar they seem onboard the same Wayland track as the other DEs just at a slower pace. As long as Xorg is around I hope Xfce never deprecates X.
- liampulles 9mo agoQuote from your link: "It is not clear yet which Xfce release will target a complete Xfce Wayland transition (or if such a transition will happen at all)."
- alextingle 9mo agoWayland just seems really unstable to me. I try it occasionally, but glitches, freezes or crashes quickly drive me back to X.
- JimmaDaRustla 9mo agoThat's not wayland - you have some config or driver issue. I've been using Wayland as my daily driver for a few years now. Any issues I have are from my window manager or apps and not wayland itself.
- alextingle 9mo agoMaybe you're right, or maybe your anecdote doesn't actually invalidate my anecdote.
- JimmaDaRustla 9mo agoI think you should look for more anecotes - there's like a million of us using wayland daily with zero issues.
- MrDrMcCoy 9mo agoHere's a nickel, kid. Get yourself some non-Nvidia hardware.
- alextingle 9mo agoEverything I have runs AMDGPU.
- honktime 9mo agoxfce wayland seems to work fine/most components are ported. I started it up in wayland mode just now and it seems to work fine.
- laxis96 9mo agoI'm genuinely wondering why everybody hates modern GNOME. I have long been running Linux on headless systems but Windows on my daily, and only recently switched to dailying a Linux desktop. I started with Kubuntu LTS, it was easy to switch from Windows (shortcuts, UX) but it felt too "complicated" and distracting, not very good looking OOTB and had some graphical glitches here and there (w/ nvidia). Now I'm on Fedora GNOME and I like it with its clean and modern design language. Very few extensions later and I can see myself being productive with it.
- snoopen 9mo agoI like GNOME for the most part. But I really dislike needing an extension to change the date away from US format. Extensions in general seem unstable. Every now and then GNOME just locks up and I have to kill it from a terminal session to avoid losing my work.
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- trebligdivad 9mo agoGnome is quite 'opinionated' in what it chooses; if you like their choices you enjoy it; if you don't....hmm. Personally I also have some things I specifically dislike; I prefer to have a fixed 3x3 virtual desktop grid, and Gnome didn't let me do that. I generally don't like the heavy use of menus and random stuff in the title bar of windows.
- EnergyAmy 9mo agoYou can do that with an extension, I do a 2x2 workspace. Although extensions can be problematic and break between versions, I haven't had any issues with this one.
- kelipso 9mo agoPeople who say “clean and modern design language” might like it? It’s very unconfigurable and impossible to adjust it to your tastes.