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"AI slop" is an internet meme that bears a strking resemblance to another, older meme, "goyslop"; why is it such a stretch to believe the former derived from th

by _zagj 9mo ago

"AI slop" is an internet meme that bears a strking resemblance to another, older meme, "goyslop"; why is it such a stretch to believe the former derived from the latter? "AI slop" was being used on 4chan as far back as November, 2022 on /g/: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/89758234/#q89758967 https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/89758234/#q89758967 https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/89911387/#q89931883 https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/89911387/#q89931883 It also saw its first use that month on /pol/, though I won't link to the archived threads (for obvious reasons). Unless you can provide earlier prior art, the most likely etymology of the term is 4chan, November, 2022, derived from "goyslop."

wincy 9mo ago
Because we’ve fed slop to pigs since the 1600s? It’s a commonly known word with a clearly understood meaning. It didn’t come from or is a shortening of goyslop, you’re just flat out wrong.
- SV_BubbleTime 9mo ago
  This while thread is wild. Slop has always been a bulk shitty thing.
- yadaeno 9mo ago
  Right.. but it’s WOTY in 2025 not 1600. The reason this word and many others (including doomer, neckbeard, zoomer, etc) are popular can easily be traced back to 4chan. There’s a book called“Algospeak” by Adam Alekaik specifically talks about how internet slang terms often originate from radicalized communities like 4chan and slowly filter into the mainstream while losing their original political meaning. Goyslop-> AI slop is a textbook example of this.
  - fluoridation 9mo ago
    Where's the evidence that "AI slop" actually originates from "goyslop", though? Just because one predates the other and both contain the same root word? It's equally if not more likely that both terms were derived independently. Like I said, "slop" is a word in common usage that precisely matches the usage of both terms: something bland, low-quality, and high-quantity.
    - yadaeno 9mo ago
      The way “slop” is used here is very specific. It implies a power dynamic between the slop producer and consumer where the consumer is viewed as cattle, and the producer feeds the cheapest possible product. GP cities specific examples of this usage on 4chan in 2022 which is proof until someone can find a counter example.
      - fluoridation 9mo ago
        I'm not sure that connotation is all that present in the way it's commonly used, but I'll grant it. However, like the other person you responded to has said, "slop" already had that meaning, because it is the low-grade cattle feed. So If both "AI slop" and "goyslop" carry these shades of meaning, it would not suggest one descends from the other, but that both descend directly from "slop".
        yadaeno 9mo ago
        That's maybe true, but "goyslop" was specifically referring to vapes, processed food and tiktok. Then shortly after people started calling tiktok "slop" and ai tiktok "ai slop". I think its a stretch to declare there is zero relation considering how much internet language originates from 4chan.
        fluoridation 9mo ago
        >"goyslop" was specifically referring to vapes, processed food and tiktok That doesn't sound very specific, that sounds quite broad. Looking around posts up to 2023 I can see the word used for just about anything, including HDMI and Disney. Honestly, this says to me it's just used as synonymous with "slop" in the broad sense, with no added meaning. >I think its a stretch to declare there is zero relation considering how much internet language originates from 4chan. There's no zero relation. The relation between the two terms is just not parent-child, but fraternal. Both simply inherit their meaning from "slop". "Slop" already has connotations of cheapness, low quality, high quantity, and cattle feed, and is a word that has existed since Old English. There's literally no reason to think "AI slop" is descended from "goyslop". At best someone heard the latter and by analogy coined the former, but given that "goyslop" had already been coined by simply prepending a modifier to "slop", there's not even any need for that explanation.
  - immibis 9mo ago
    "gas" as in "natural gas" is not a shortening of "gas the Jews" either. Just because antisemites used a word, that doesn't mean the word is antisemitic.
- _zagj 9mo ago
  If the term originated on 4chan, then there's little doubt it derived from "goyslop," given how common the usage of "goyslop" was and is there, and how similar are the connotations: overlords feeding their "cattle" an unhealthy facsimile of something, editable or digital, to physically or mentally sicken them and render them docile & subservient. The people here who don't see the connection also fail to demonstrate any familiarity with imageboard culture and its memes. Even in this thread, at least one other person noted the link before me (and got flagged for it)[1], and the Wiktionary entry cites "goyslop" as a related term[2]. The only question remaining is whether it did, in fact, originate on 4chan. If it saw some usage outside of imageboards before November, 2022, then that undermines the argument. But if 4chan birthed it, then "goyslop" was surely its inspiration. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item/id=46579707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item/id=46579707 [2] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/AI_slop https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/AI_slop
  - nephihaha 9mo ago
    Wikipedia? Well, that clinches it.
stonogo 9mo ago
Same source shows 'slop' alone being used as far back as 2008: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/slop/order/asc/ https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/slop/order/asc/ Some of these uses are the verb form, but most are the noun form, being used in pretty much the same sense it has been used for generations, and is in use today.
fluoridation 9mo ago
Okay. If "slop" is a shortened form of "goyslop", then what's the etymology of "goyslop"? Is it just a wholly novel sequence of unrelated letters?
- nephihaha 9mo ago
  Goy is the Hebrew for a Gentile (or a nation). However, while goyslop is an earlier coinage I certainly do not link it to AI-slop, but more to "sloppy".
  - fluoridation 9mo ago
    "Goyslop" and "sloppy" are both derived from "slop". "Goyslop" meaning "slop of the goy variety" (equivalently to "AI slop"), and "sloppy" meaning "having the qualities of slop".
    - nephihaha 9mo ago
      I was already aware of the term "goyslop" but I see it as a parallel development rather than the origin. I heard daytime TV programming being referred to as slop over twenty years ago. I don't think there are any antisemitic undertones for the word outwith the "goyslop" coinage.
nephihaha 9mo ago
Nah... I've heard the term slop used all my lifetime. Very common word, as is "sloppy". In fact, I'd connect it with sloppy in the sense of poor workmanship.

by _zagj 9mo ago

wincy 9mo ago

Because we’ve fed slop to pigs since the 1600s? It’s a commonly known word with a clearly understood meaning. It didn’t come from or is a shortening of goyslop, you’re just flat out wrong.

SV_BubbleTime 9mo ago
This while thread is wild. Slop has always been a bulk shitty thing.
yadaeno 9mo ago
Right.. but it’s WOTY in 2025 not 1600. The reason this word and many others (including doomer, neckbeard, zoomer, etc) are popular can easily be traced back to 4chan. There’s a book called“Algospeak” by Adam Alekaik specifically talks about how internet slang terms often originate from radicalized communities like 4chan and slowly filter into the mainstream while losing their original political meaning. Goyslop-> AI slop is a textbook example of this.
- fluoridation 9mo ago
  Where's the evidence that "AI slop" actually originates from "goyslop", though? Just because one predates the other and both contain the same root word? It's equally if not more likely that both terms were derived independently. Like I said, "slop" is a word in common usage that precisely matches the usage of both terms: something bland, low-quality, and high-quantity.
  - yadaeno 9mo ago
    The way “slop” is used here is very specific. It implies a power dynamic between the slop producer and consumer where the consumer is viewed as cattle, and the producer feeds the cheapest possible product. GP cities specific examples of this usage on 4chan in 2022 which is proof until someone can find a counter example.
    - fluoridation 9mo ago
      I'm not sure that connotation is all that present in the way it's commonly used, but I'll grant it. However, like the other person you responded to has said, "slop" already had that meaning, because it is the low-grade cattle feed. So If both "AI slop" and "goyslop" carry these shades of meaning, it would not suggest one descends from the other, but that both descend directly from "slop".
      - yadaeno 9mo ago
        That's maybe true, but "goyslop" was specifically referring to vapes, processed food and tiktok. Then shortly after people started calling tiktok "slop" and ai tiktok "ai slop". I think its a stretch to declare there is zero relation considering how much internet language originates from 4chan.
        fluoridation 9mo ago
        >"goyslop" was specifically referring to vapes, processed food and tiktok That doesn't sound very specific, that sounds quite broad. Looking around posts up to 2023 I can see the word used for just about anything, including HDMI and Disney. Honestly, this says to me it's just used as synonymous with "slop" in the broad sense, with no added meaning. >I think its a stretch to declare there is zero relation considering how much internet language originates from 4chan. There's no zero relation. The relation between the two terms is just not parent-child, but fraternal. Both simply inherit their meaning from "slop". "Slop" already has connotations of cheapness, low quality, high quantity, and cattle feed, and is a word that has existed since Old English. There's literally no reason to think "AI slop" is descended from "goyslop". At best someone heard the latter and by analogy coined the former, but given that "goyslop" had already been coined by simply prepending a modifier to "slop", there's not even any need for that explanation.
- immibis 9mo ago
  "gas" as in "natural gas" is not a shortening of "gas the Jews" either. Just because antisemites used a word, that doesn't mean the word is antisemitic.
_zagj 9mo ago
If the term originated on 4chan, then there's little doubt it derived from "goyslop," given how common the usage of "goyslop" was and is there, and how similar are the connotations: overlords feeding their "cattle" an unhealthy facsimile of something, editable or digital, to physically or mentally sicken them and render them docile & subservient. The people here who don't see the connection also fail to demonstrate any familiarity with imageboard culture and its memes. Even in this thread, at least one other person noted the link before me (and got flagged for it)[1], and the Wiktionary entry cites "goyslop" as a related term[2]. The only question remaining is whether it did, in fact, originate on 4chan. If it saw some usage outside of imageboards before November, 2022, then that undermines the argument. But if 4chan birthed it, then "goyslop" was surely its inspiration. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item/id=46579707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item/id=46579707 [2] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/AI_slop https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/AI_slop
- nephihaha 9mo ago
  Wikipedia? Well, that clinches it.

stonogo 9mo ago

Same source shows 'slop' alone being used as far back as 2008: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/slop/order/asc/ https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/slop/order/asc/ Some of these uses are the verb form, but most are the noun form, being used in pretty much the same sense it has been used for generations, and is in use today.

fluoridation 9mo ago

Okay. If "slop" is a shortened form of "goyslop", then what's the etymology of "goyslop"? Is it just a wholly novel sequence of unrelated letters?

nephihaha 9mo ago
Goy is the Hebrew for a Gentile (or a nation). However, while goyslop is an earlier coinage I certainly do not link it to AI-slop, but more to "sloppy".
- fluoridation 9mo ago
  "Goyslop" and "sloppy" are both derived from "slop". "Goyslop" meaning "slop of the goy variety" (equivalently to "AI slop"), and "sloppy" meaning "having the qualities of slop".
  - nephihaha 9mo ago
    I was already aware of the term "goyslop" but I see it as a parallel development rather than the origin. I heard daytime TV programming being referred to as slop over twenty years ago. I don't think there are any antisemitic undertones for the word outwith the "goyslop" coinage.

nephihaha 9mo ago

Nah... I've heard the term slop used all my lifetime. Very common word, as is "sloppy". In fact, I'd connect it with sloppy in the sense of poor workmanship.