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>Google is promoting their own services on their own website. Microsoft was doing the same thing by promoting Internet Explorer within their OS. >all you have

by nivla 14y ago

>Google is promoting their own services on their own website. Microsoft was doing the same thing by promoting Internet Explorer within their OS. >all you have to do is type in bing.com/yahoo.com/duckduckgo.com instead of google.com. The same way you could type getfirefox.com and chrome.google.com and get those browsers in Windows. If you want to see the real anti-trust violations, look at the mobile market. All three Apple, Google and Microsoft can be held responsible for violations.

Retric 14y ago
Microsoft was actively creating patches that broke other browsers, and offering discounts to prevent companies like Dell from selling competing operating systems. That's a little more than some advertising. Just picture it, run Microsoft update Chrome and Firefox break now what?
- nivla 14y ago
  >Microsoft was actively creating patches that broke other browsers Do you realize there wasn't a official specs set at that time? Different browsers came up with "patches"/features own there own. From the blink tag to Ajax, all were proprietary to each browser. >offering discounts to prevent companies like Dell from selling competing operating systems. Isn't that what Google is doing with android too? >Just picture it, run Microsoft update Chrome and Firefox break now what? I don't believe it ever happened or ever will. If Microsoft had to go that route, they would have done it before losing the biggest chunk of the browser share.
  - nitrogen 14y ago
    Do you realize there wasn't a official specs set at that time? Different browsers came up with "patches"/features own there own. From the blink tag to Ajax, all were proprietary to each browser. I don't believe it ever happened or ever will. If Microsoft had to go that route, they would have done it before losing the biggest chunk of the browser share. Retric wasn't talking about patches to IE, but rather patches to the OS that would break third-party applications (they did this to Word Perfect during the transition from DOS to Windows, too). You can all about Microsoft's colorful past in the so-called Halloween Documents, the press coverage and public documentation of the main antitrust case, and in other cases such as those documented on Groklaw.
  - reissbaker 14y ago
    >offering discounts to prevent companies like Dell from selling competing operating systems. Isn't that what Google is doing with android too? Can't say much about the rest of your comment, but I'm pretty sure Google wasn't trying to "prevent companies like [LG/Samsung/HTC] from selling competing operating systems." Apple doesn't sell iOS to other hardware manufacturers, and the other modern smartphone operating systems didn't exist when Google open-sourced Android. Microsoft, on the other hand, has attempted to coerce vendors into selling Windows Phone smartphones by threatening them with patent suits.
- recoiledsnake 14y ago
  >Microsoft was actively creating patches that broke other browser Do you have any reference to this or is it another urban legend which is repeated till everyone assumes it is true?
hiddenstage 14y ago
Downloading browsers on dialup internet wasn't fun.
- nivla 14y ago
  Neither was downloading porn, but we all sucked it up and did it. I remember Netscape being included with my ISP's floppy disks so I never had to download it.

by nivla 14y ago

Retric 14y ago

Microsoft was actively creating patches that broke other browsers, and offering discounts to prevent companies like Dell from selling competing operating systems. That's a little more than some advertising. Just picture it, run Microsoft update Chrome and Firefox break now what?

nivla 14y ago
>Microsoft was actively creating patches that broke other browsers Do you realize there wasn't a official specs set at that time? Different browsers came up with "patches"/features own there own. From the blink tag to Ajax, all were proprietary to each browser. >offering discounts to prevent companies like Dell from selling competing operating systems. Isn't that what Google is doing with android too? >Just picture it, run Microsoft update Chrome and Firefox break now what? I don't believe it ever happened or ever will. If Microsoft had to go that route, they would have done it before losing the biggest chunk of the browser share.
- nitrogen 14y ago
  Do you realize there wasn't a official specs set at that time? Different browsers came up with "patches"/features own there own. From the blink tag to Ajax, all were proprietary to each browser. I don't believe it ever happened or ever will. If Microsoft had to go that route, they would have done it before losing the biggest chunk of the browser share. Retric wasn't talking about patches to IE, but rather patches to the OS that would break third-party applications (they did this to Word Perfect during the transition from DOS to Windows, too). You can all about Microsoft's colorful past in the so-called Halloween Documents, the press coverage and public documentation of the main antitrust case, and in other cases such as those documented on Groklaw.
- reissbaker 14y ago
  >offering discounts to prevent companies like Dell from selling competing operating systems. Isn't that what Google is doing with android too? Can't say much about the rest of your comment, but I'm pretty sure Google wasn't trying to "prevent companies like [LG/Samsung/HTC] from selling competing operating systems." Apple doesn't sell iOS to other hardware manufacturers, and the other modern smartphone operating systems didn't exist when Google open-sourced Android. Microsoft, on the other hand, has attempted to coerce vendors into selling Windows Phone smartphones by threatening them with patent suits.
recoiledsnake 14y ago
>Microsoft was actively creating patches that broke other browser Do you have any reference to this or is it another urban legend which is repeated till everyone assumes it is true?

hiddenstage 14y ago

Downloading browsers on dialup internet wasn't fun.

nivla 14y ago
Neither was downloading porn, but we all sucked it up and did it. I remember Netscape being included with my ISP's floppy disks so I never had to download it.