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Humans can turn observation into symbol. I don't think that machines can do that. At least not without consulting a dictionary or a lookup table or an algorithm
by analog8374 9mo ago
Humans can turn observation into symbol. I don't think that machines can do that. At least not without consulting a dictionary or a lookup table or an algorithm written by a human. That's important I think.
Also, I hear that in the original Matrix, the humans were used for performing processes that machines were incapable of. I dunno, clever number generation or something. And then they dumbed that down into coppertops for the rabble.
- AndrewKemendo 9mo agoAnd you don’t believe that there’s ever going to be a time in any future ever, when a group of machines is going to autonomously challenge or coerce an individual human or group of humans?
- analog8374 9mo agoIt's a machine. It by definition lacks autonomy. The act may be circuiticiously arrived at, but still. Somebody has to write and run the program.
- AndrewKemendo 9mo agoThat kind of dodges my question. I’ll repeat it: Is there any time in the future where you believe a machine or set of machines could measurably out perform a human to the degree that they can coerce or overpower them with no human intervention?
- analog8374 9mo ago(Ya sure, because repeating yourself is always so helpful) well, leaving the "with no human intervention" part, which is a bit fuzzy. Ya sure. AI can already contrive erudite bs arguments at a moment's notice, sell stuff pretty good and shoot guns with great accuracy. Do you?
- AndrewKemendo 9mo agoYes I do So, given that we agree that there will be superhuman robotic systems; would you disagree that such a system, at scale, would be impossible to overcome for human or group of humans?
- analog8374 9mo agoYa don't say. Just state your big hypothesis already.