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the containers say how much volume they have and usually are sold with a unit price as well. seems like a much simpler and general solution than defining some l

the containers say how much volume they have and usually are sold with a unit price as well. seems like a much simpler and general solution than defining some legal shape of jars

yatopifo 10mo ago
The real issue is that those dimples prevent you from getting the last bit. I also find it very annoying that in Canada quantity is often reported in ounces. Aside from the troy ounce, i have absolutely no idea how much an ounce is and whether it measures volume or mass. The only reason we still have ounces is because of trade with the US. Since no Canadian should be buying US made stuff, we should just ban most non metric units at this point.
- whimsicalism 10mo ago
  moral Canadians should probably also refrain from participating in any American-run website like HN
- wasabi991011 10mo ago
  I don't remember the last time I've seen an item in a Canadian grocery store that doesn't also include a metric amount (possibly in parenthesis) on the label itself. Not to mention the shelf price has per unit, almost always per metric unit (except rarely meat being per lb). Are you sure about what you are seeing, is it possible this is just for a few US imports and maybe you aren't looking at the shelf sticker? Or maybe it's a province-specific thing? Edit: Found the regulation. In general, > On consumer prepackaged foods, the net quantity must be declared on the principal display panel in metric units [221, 232, SFCR]. However, consumer prepackaged foods that are packaged from bulk at retail, other than individually measured foods, can declare the net quantity on the principal display panel in Canadian units [241.4(2)(b), SFCR]. https://inspection.canada.ca/en/food-labels/labelling/industry/net-quantity https://inspection.canada.ca/en/food-labels/labelling/indust...
- aitchnyu 10mo ago
  I saw a reddit post about somebody cutting up an empty (cant extract any more) squeeze tube of some beauty product and around half was stuck on the walls. I gained a new respect for those who silently chose transparent containers and dispensers.
nathan_compton 10mo ago
I don't know - its very easy to buy what looks like the same jar and find it has less. The consumer should not be expected to be some fucking food detective, constantly working to make sure that they aren't being ripped off. Packaging should be simple enough that the volume presented to the purchaser is the actual volume.
- whimsicalism 10mo ago
  unit costs should be larger on the label. as large as the standard price
  - nathan_compton 9mo ago
    Literally no reason to allow companies to use misleading package sizes or to expect customers to check the unit price every time they walk into the grocery store. Its great the unit prices are there, but misleading packaging still sucks.
aitchnyu 10mo ago
Customers should also be informed of quality/expectations differences between versions. For example, there was a car which got a facelift, but they cheaped out on everything inside so it can compete with cheaper cars but unsuspecting buyers had the wrong reputation in mind.
znnajdla 10mo ago
We don't need to define a legal shape of a container. We can just make deceptive shapes illegal and let a judge/jury define what deceptive means on a case-by-case basis. In fact I don't think any new laws are needed for this, there must be some existing legislation for which a case can made for fraud here.

the containers say how much volume they have and usually are sold with a unit price as well. seems like a much simpler and general solution than defining some legal shape of jars

yatopifo 10mo ago

The real issue is that those dimples prevent you from getting the last bit. I also find it very annoying that in Canada quantity is often reported in ounces. Aside from the troy ounce, i have absolutely no idea how much an ounce is and whether it measures volume or mass. The only reason we still have ounces is because of trade with the US. Since no Canadian should be buying US made stuff, we should just ban most non metric units at this point.

whimsicalism 10mo ago
moral Canadians should probably also refrain from participating in any American-run website like HN
wasabi991011 10mo ago
I don't remember the last time I've seen an item in a Canadian grocery store that doesn't also include a metric amount (possibly in parenthesis) on the label itself. Not to mention the shelf price has per unit, almost always per metric unit (except rarely meat being per lb). Are you sure about what you are seeing, is it possible this is just for a few US imports and maybe you aren't looking at the shelf sticker? Or maybe it's a province-specific thing? Edit: Found the regulation. In general, > On consumer prepackaged foods, the net quantity must be declared on the principal display panel in metric units [221, 232, SFCR]. However, consumer prepackaged foods that are packaged from bulk at retail, other than individually measured foods, can declare the net quantity on the principal display panel in Canadian units [241.4(2)(b), SFCR]. https://inspection.canada.ca/en/food-labels/labelling/industry/net-quantity https://inspection.canada.ca/en/food-labels/labelling/indust...
aitchnyu 10mo ago
I saw a reddit post about somebody cutting up an empty (cant extract any more) squeeze tube of some beauty product and around half was stuck on the walls. I gained a new respect for those who silently chose transparent containers and dispensers.

nathan_compton 10mo ago

I don't know - its very easy to buy what looks like the same jar and find it has less. The consumer should not be expected to be some fucking food detective, constantly working to make sure that they aren't being ripped off. Packaging should be simple enough that the volume presented to the purchaser is the actual volume.

whimsicalism 10mo ago
unit costs should be larger on the label. as large as the standard price
- nathan_compton 9mo ago
  Literally no reason to allow companies to use misleading package sizes or to expect customers to check the unit price every time they walk into the grocery store. Its great the unit prices are there, but misleading packaging still sucks.

aitchnyu 10mo ago

Customers should also be informed of quality/expectations differences between versions. For example, there was a car which got a facelift, but they cheaped out on everything inside so it can compete with cheaper cars but unsuspecting buyers had the wrong reputation in mind.

znnajdla 10mo ago

We don't need to define a legal shape of a container. We can just make deceptive shapes illegal and let a judge/jury define what deceptive means on a case-by-case basis. In fact I don't think any new laws are needed for this, there must be some existing legislation for which a case can made for fraud here.