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More than one hundred years of Film Sizes
- wiederholen 9mo ago[dead]
- Lammy 9mo agoI think this is the earliest-born person I've ever seen have a personal website like this — 1929 ! https://wichm.home.xs4all.nl/amsterdam1.html https://wichm.home.xs4all.nl/amsterdam1.html R.I.P. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rogge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rogge I went ahead and mirrored this entire site, and his YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelRogge https://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelRogge
- croisillon 9mo agoi went down this rabbit hole and in fact Tim Berners Lee is/was not old (b. 1955), though one can argue George HW Bush (b. 1924) had the White House website running he evidently didn't have a personal one and then there is Olive Riley (b. 1899) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_Riley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_Riley
- dcminter 9mo agoI'd imagine there are a good few, but that for a lot of them their websites expired when the owner did. For example my Dad's is gone now and he was only a bit younger. Wayback machine likely has a lot of them in its index if you can find them.
- MORPHOICES 9mo ago[flagged]
- guax 9mo ago"Where was the emphasis on compatibility over design" Im confused by this line, standards are meant to promote compatibility, not design. They're a way to, well... standardise processes and things. Its almost a given that you'll have to compromise on design to be able to include enough variance to appease the majority of use cases. It is also desirable, I think, of a standard to not give in to edge cases and niche uses and stay as simple as it can to the general use. There will be other niche standards for those and that is a good thing. Standards survive and die for the same reason they're created, they make things cheaper, faster and easier. Once they fail at those, they give in to newer entrants. Physical standards can also make things safer, but safety must be enforced as people often are bad at judging risk and prefer the other features to a fault.
- justincormack 9mo agoFilm is manufactured on huge rolls, and is cut down to different sizes and formats, so its not really that expensive on the manufacturing side to support a lot of formats. From the buy side, cameras are expensive, and almost all cameras only support one format. The big change came with film developing labs on teh high street, as when development was at home it was fairly manual, but once it was automated the machines were designed for fewer formats (for a long time 35mm, and often medium format). But even then, the process doesnt change per format and the chemicals are the same, so supporting variation is relatively cheap.
- jacquesm 9mo agoIn the early days there were as many formats as there were camera backs because the exposure was at the size of the print. These were positives that were developed directly rather than that they went through an intermediate step of a negative and subsequent enlargement.
- justincormack 9mo agoThe glass plate sizes were relatively well standardised, eg whole plate, half plate quarter plate, although other countries had metric and imperial versions. Before the plates were mass produced they may have varied more.
- jacquesm 9mo agoMy dad collected old cameras, he had 100's, and the number of formats in use was not all that much smaller than the number of cameras, to the point that we had to cut glass or paper quite often. We also sensitized our own plates and developed metal plates (which is insanely dangerous).
- drmpeg 9mo agoVistaVision has made a comeback with "The Brutalist", "One Battle After Another" and "Bugonia". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision
- kudeyar 9mo agoIKR. This is why i'm always angry at little kids for making a hundred mistakes. why can't they see like i can see? why am i the only one in here that can see?!?!?!
- keiferski 9mo agoIt’s amazing to think that film / moving images as an art form is only a little over a century old. Painting, sculpture, drawing, etc. are orders of magnitude older. It also makes me wonder what the future of the form will be. Historically speaking we’re still at the very beginning of it.
- justincormack 9mo agoThe oldest surviving photograph is 200 years old this year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_from_the_Window_at_Le_Gras https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_from_the_Window_at_Le_Gra...
- lordwiz 9mo agoFilm formats still rule, but I’m curious what comes next. What I’m seeing in the mainstream is large-format 65 mm / IMAX 70 mm film, which feels like a premium big-screen experience, almost too premium to access nearby.
- greekrich92 9mo agoOne Battle After Another was shot and released on VistaVision. Sideways 35mm basically. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision
- mmcwilliams 9mo agoVistaVision is being used more often as a cheaper way to get to IMAX or 70mm projections sizes. The gear and filmstock is less expensive for production and you can laser out to the other formats at roughly the same resolution you capture at.
- flipthefrog 9mo agoThere are far less working VistaVision cameras than 70mm. It wasnt used at all, or just for shooting vfx, for 50 years until recently
- mmcwilliams 9mo agoThis is true but it is far cheaper to scan and develop. Labs have to reset the machines to switch over to 65mm/70mm but are running 35mm every day.
- SoftTalker 9mo agoI'm sure there are still some stubborn old directors shooting movies on film but aren't most shot digitally today? And even those shot on film are surely immediately scanned so post processing can be done digitally? Can't imagine anyone is still sitting with razor blades and splicing tape putting scenes together.
- fallinditch 9mo agoIt's great to see Vistavision making a comeback, a perfect format IMHO, exemplified by Hitchcock's Vertigo - https://youtu.be/95o-QM-lz8g https://youtu.be/95o-QM-lz8g
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- marssaxman 9mo agoInteresting that 35mm seems to be the only film format which crosses over between the movie and still photography worlds.