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> A student who took all six AP classes offered at her school might be more impressive than the one who took six at a school that offered twice as many. Damn,

by galkk 9mo ago

> A student who took all six AP classes offered at her school might be more impressive than the one who took six at a school that offered twice as many. Damn, this is as stupid as it gets.

gopher_space 9mo ago
The students operating at this level are identical. There’s no practical difference between a 4.0 and a 4.5 GPA when comparing students from different schools.
parpfish 9mo ago
There nothing stupid about controlling for circumstances. As an analogy, let’s say you want to build a fun race car that you can take to the track. You go out and look at a bunch of used cars and you want to be qualitative so you measure out their 0-60 times. You could just say “the car with the best time wins” and take the fastest one you tested. Or you could consider context like “this one had bald tires tha could easily be upgraded” or “we tested this one going uphill”. The goal is to find the car that can be turned into the fastest and not which has the best numbers right now.
- daedrdev 9mo ago
  Better circumstance do create better students though. And all this will do is cause the best students to hide in shit schools to game the system
  - fn-mote 9mo ago
    > And all this will do is cause the best students to hide in shit schools to game the system No it won’t, because they would get a horrible base for their education and be 1-2 years behind their “super strong school” peers. (I did not make up these numbers; it’s easy to have more than 1 year of college credit from Advanced Placement classes in the US system.) Acting like college is the beginning of education is foolish. Imagine struggling with learning how to learn challenging material while taking classes with students who already did that three years ago.
    - labcomputer 9mo ago
      So they’ll take dual-enrollment classes at the local community college instead.
jayd16 9mo ago
Ok well look at it the other way. Should a student be punished if they took every AP offered but less than another student?

by galkk 9mo ago

> A student who took all six AP classes offered at her school might be more impressive than the one who took six at a school that offered twice as many. Damn, this is as stupid as it gets.

gopher_space 9mo ago

The students operating at this level are identical. There’s no practical difference between a 4.0 and a 4.5 GPA when comparing students from different schools.

parpfish 9mo ago

There nothing stupid about controlling for circumstances. As an analogy, let’s say you want to build a fun race car that you can take to the track. You go out and look at a bunch of used cars and you want to be qualitative so you measure out their 0-60 times. You could just say “the car with the best time wins” and take the fastest one you tested. Or you could consider context like “this one had bald tires tha could easily be upgraded” or “we tested this one going uphill”. The goal is to find the car that can be turned into the fastest and not which has the best numbers right now.

daedrdev 9mo ago
Better circumstance do create better students though. And all this will do is cause the best students to hide in shit schools to game the system
- fn-mote 9mo ago
  > And all this will do is cause the best students to hide in shit schools to game the system No it won’t, because they would get a horrible base for their education and be 1-2 years behind their “super strong school” peers. (I did not make up these numbers; it’s easy to have more than 1 year of college credit from Advanced Placement classes in the US system.) Acting like college is the beginning of education is foolish. Imagine struggling with learning how to learn challenging material while taking classes with students who already did that three years ago.
  - labcomputer 9mo ago
    So they’ll take dual-enrollment classes at the local community college instead.

jayd16 9mo ago

Ok well look at it the other way. Should a student be punished if they took every AP offered but less than another student?