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>(At atomic level, I don’t know if universe is deterministic or not, but at human level it definitely is not). That level of certainty demands an explanation.
by Permit 14y ago
>(At atomic level, I don’t know if universe is deterministic or not, but at human level it definitely is not).
That level of certainty demands an explanation. The author seems to come to the conclusion that the complex interactions do not leave room for determinism. I'm not entirely sure why.
The usual idea is that if one were to know the position and velocity of every particle in the physical universe, one could theoretically predict how the universe would change at any given time. That should work as well for four particles as it should for four billion. I don't think complexity in a system can be used to show evidence of true randomness.
That being said, I don't believe the world is deterministic at either the atomic or the macroscopic level. But I wholly dislike the reasons presented here.
- paraschopra 14y agoMy point here is that universe is definitely not deterministic on a macro, human level. It may not be random at most fundamental level, but the number of variables there are, on a macro level it the universe does not seem to be deterministic.
- Permit 14y ago>My point here is that universe is definitely not deterministic on a macro, human level. It may not be random at most fundamental level, but the number of variables there are, on a macro level it the universe does not seem to be deterministic. Why does an increasing number of variables mean the system is not deterministic? Simply because interactions between people are complex, does not mean they are not deterministic. The number of variables has no impact on whether or not a system is deterministic.
- paraschopra 14y agoI did not say it is not deterministic, however it _appears_ to be non deterministic on a macro level.