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https://eupolicy.social/@jmaris/115860595509967609 https://eupolicy.social/@jmaris/115860595509967609

by ceejayoz 10mo ago

blell 10mo ago
That does not matter. It only complies with Euro 3 emissions requirements.
- omnicognate 10mo ago
  Which will get you into London's Low Emission Zone (LEZ). Not the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ), though. Besides, I think the point is really that we should be making and buying vehicles more like this (in the positive aspects) rather than that we should all drive 40 year old Citroens.
  - blell 10mo ago
    If the EU cared about this so much they wouldn't have allowed all car makers to buy one another until all cars cost €25k for the base model. Maybe, maybe that's the issue that prevents people from updating their cars which emit a lot of stuff they don't like.
    - omnicognate 10mo ago
      You seem to have an axe to grind about something completely unrelated to the article here. Since you brought it up, though, if you're going to be one of the thousands of people driving up the road outside my house every day then, as a member of a family with multiple generations of life-threatening asthma, the fact that you're required to do it in a car with strictly regulated emissions is an unalloyed positive as far as I'm concerned.
      - hermanzegerman 10mo ago
        20 day old account and constantly hates against the EU. Probably a bot. Not worth engaging
- woodpanel 10mo ago
  This thing will be so old that the owner just needs to apply for a "historical" car license and then those eco-zones are irrelevant. But yeah, the author's wrong on so many things. Starting with putting his stuff on mastodon in the first place. Or not withstanding that the same people he cheers on, are outlawing diesel engines. Tbh though, a lot of the latter was fueled from US-industrial anti-diesel propaganda.
nicolaslem 10mo ago
CO2 is a bit of an outlier in the groups of pollutants emitted by a car. Modern cars will emit way less of the other pollutants that are directly unhealthy for humans to breathe (NOx, CO, particulate matter, etc.). I know the thread is mostly for fun, but only considering CO2 is a bit misleading when accessing how environmentally (un)friendly a car is.

https://eupolicy.social/@jmaris/115860595509967609 https://eupolicy.social/@jmaris/115860595509967609

blell 10mo ago

That does not matter. It only complies with Euro 3 emissions requirements.

omnicognate 10mo ago
Which will get you into London's Low Emission Zone (LEZ). Not the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ), though. Besides, I think the point is really that we should be making and buying vehicles more like this (in the positive aspects) rather than that we should all drive 40 year old Citroens.
- blell 10mo ago
  If the EU cared about this so much they wouldn't have allowed all car makers to buy one another until all cars cost €25k for the base model. Maybe, maybe that's the issue that prevents people from updating their cars which emit a lot of stuff they don't like.
  - omnicognate 10mo ago
    You seem to have an axe to grind about something completely unrelated to the article here. Since you brought it up, though, if you're going to be one of the thousands of people driving up the road outside my house every day then, as a member of a family with multiple generations of life-threatening asthma, the fact that you're required to do it in a car with strictly regulated emissions is an unalloyed positive as far as I'm concerned.
    - hermanzegerman 10mo ago
      20 day old account and constantly hates against the EU. Probably a bot. Not worth engaging
woodpanel 10mo ago
This thing will be so old that the owner just needs to apply for a "historical" car license and then those eco-zones are irrelevant. But yeah, the author's wrong on so many things. Starting with putting his stuff on mastodon in the first place. Or not withstanding that the same people he cheers on, are outlawing diesel engines. Tbh though, a lot of the latter was fueled from US-industrial anti-diesel propaganda.

nicolaslem 10mo ago

CO2 is a bit of an outlier in the groups of pollutants emitted by a car. Modern cars will emit way less of the other pollutants that are directly unhealthy for humans to breathe (NOx, CO, particulate matter, etc.). I know the thread is mostly for fun, but only considering CO2 is a bit misleading when accessing how environmentally (un)friendly a car is.