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It was recently boosted by a youtuber, but the reporting on it goes back to 2013. https://www.fox9.com/news/fox-9-investigating-fraud-uncovering-minnesota-2025

by delichon 10mo ago

It was recently boosted by a youtuber, but the reporting on it goes back to 2013. https://www.fox9.com/news/fox-9-investigating-fraud-uncovering-minnesota-2025 https://www.fox9.com/news/fox-9-investigating-fraud-uncoveri...

clanky 10mo ago
Ok so they clearly don't actually care and let it continue through the entire first Trump administration, and are doing this to punish the resistance in Minnesota.
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  - clanky 10mo ago
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SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
Well, that’s pretty crazy. I saw the independent journalist video on daycares too after I posted. I mean… you can’t target a state but it does seem pretty bad and that payments should be limited until the fraud is sorted out.
- blurbleblurble 10mo ago
  Every single daycare in that video was visited independently and found to have children in it. Furthermore, many Somali families are being persecuted by ICE right now, so if attendance is lower than usual there's a sick reason.
  - SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
    > Every single daycare in that video was visited independently and found to have children in it. Is there a video for that? I couldn’t find anything. I did find articles of the FBI carrying boxes of documents out of MN commercial fronts. Is your supposition that there is no fraud? Or just no daycare fraud?
    - clanky 10mo ago
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    - blurbleblurble 10mo ago
      My supposition is that Nick Shirley is dog whistling you and many others, and that the stakes are way too high to not push back. 140k peoples' SNAP benefits deserve to get cut arbitrarily because of a misleading viral video? That's a travesty waiting to happen. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minnesota-department-finds-child-care-centers-targeted-viral-video-ope-rcna252013 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minnesota-department-fi... https://19thnews.org/2026/01/child-care-fraud-minnesota-fact-check/ https://19thnews.org/2026/01/child-care-fraud-minnesota-fact...
      - SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
        Frey on NBCNews today… “Obviously everybody could have done more to prevent fraud, and that’s a fair point to make […] And by the way, the fraud is real, we’ve all got to acknowledge it, the fraud is very real.” Ok. So your argument is that the billions of fraud isn’t from daycares so it isn’t important? I’m not sure where you leared that.

clanky 10mo ago

Ok so they clearly don't actually care and let it continue through the entire first Trump administration, and are doing this to punish the resistance in Minnesota.

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SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago

Well, that’s pretty crazy. I saw the independent journalist video on daycares too after I posted. I mean… you can’t target a state but it does seem pretty bad and that payments should be limited until the fraud is sorted out.

blurbleblurble 10mo ago
Every single daycare in that video was visited independently and found to have children in it. Furthermore, many Somali families are being persecuted by ICE right now, so if attendance is lower than usual there's a sick reason.
- SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
  > Every single daycare in that video was visited independently and found to have children in it. Is there a video for that? I couldn’t find anything. I did find articles of the FBI carrying boxes of documents out of MN commercial fronts. Is your supposition that there is no fraud? Or just no daycare fraud?
  - clanky 10mo ago
    [dead]
  - blurbleblurble 10mo ago
    My supposition is that Nick Shirley is dog whistling you and many others, and that the stakes are way too high to not push back. 140k peoples' SNAP benefits deserve to get cut arbitrarily because of a misleading viral video? That's a travesty waiting to happen. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minnesota-department-finds-child-care-centers-targeted-viral-video-ope-rcna252013 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minnesota-department-fi... https://19thnews.org/2026/01/child-care-fraud-minnesota-fact-check/ https://19thnews.org/2026/01/child-care-fraud-minnesota-fact...
    - SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
      Frey on NBCNews today… “Obviously everybody could have done more to prevent fraud, and that’s a fair point to make […] And by the way, the fraud is real, we’ve all got to acknowledge it, the fraud is very real.” Ok. So your argument is that the billions of fraud isn’t from daycares so it isn’t important? I’m not sure where you leared that.