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> We need a third alternative, based on freedom with your device. No root access, remote control by apple and google, all wrong. There is https://postmarketos.

> We need a third alternative, based on freedom with your device. No root access, remote control by apple and google, all wrong. There is https://postmarketos.org/ https://postmarketos.org/ Maybe 2026 will be the year of Linux on mobile phone.

krautsauer 9mo ago
The list of devices in the highest support category hints at how likely this is. https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices And yeah, you can even buy phones with a non-android linux pre-installed, e.g. from pine64. But they come with all kinds of "for early adopters" warning labels. Deservedly so, in my opinion.
- ptman 9mo ago
  https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder
  - rubin55 9mo ago
    Oh thanks for that link, I didn't know about it, pre-ordered!
  - ezst 9mo ago
    Hope there's a timeline in which banking and corporate apps can run/be enrolled on that. If the current geopolitical mess from the USA isn't a good-enough reason to make it happen, I don't know what is.
goku12 9mo ago
> Maybe 2026 will be the year of Linux on mobile phone. Considering the ongoing DRAM and SSD crunch, I won't hold my breath.
- opan 9mo ago
  This could actually be a reason to work on better supporting older "Android" phones in postmarketOS, to keep the hardware people already have working.
fsflover 9mo ago
Why are all commenters on HN ignoring the only smartphone running an FSF-endorsed [0] operating system, Librem 5, and only list everything else? I just can't get it. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25504641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25504641
- charcircuit 9mo ago
  Because it was a kickstarter that was run like a scam, was years late to deliver the first device, the hardware was already not good at the start due picking an automotive SOC, the form factor was bulky, and the software was really buggy. GrapheneOS is a much more practical open source OS to use Linux on a phone.
  - zozbot234 9mo ago
    GrapheneOS is not solving the actual interesting problem (running on an entirely mainline kernel, just like on x86). It's effectively a hardened variety of LineageOS/AOSP, hence entirely reliant on device-specific downstream kernels/BSPs that will never see a feature update. BTW, hardware support on postmarketOS "community" class devices has seen some nice improvements as of late. Once these improvements meaningfully stabilize (avoiding the risk of regression/breakage; there's been some of that even in the recent testing for the 2025-12 stable release) it's quite possible that some "community" devices might finally reach "main" class, marking them as OK for daily-driver use. Something to watch for as we approach 2026-06.
    - charcircuit 9mo ago
      >GrapheneOS is not solving the actual interesting problem Consumers don't care how interesting the developer's problems are. They want their own problems to be solved and GrapheneOS does a better job of that. >running on an entirely mainline kernel Google already did that work years ago. Android will work on a mainline kernel. Just like with x86 the mainline kernel needs to support the hardware e you want to use though.
      - 9mo ago

krautsauer 9mo ago

The list of devices in the highest support category hints at how likely this is. https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices And yeah, you can even buy phones with a non-android linux pre-installed, e.g. from pine64. But they come with all kinds of "for early adopters" warning labels. Deservedly so, in my opinion.

ptman 9mo ago
https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder
- rubin55 9mo ago
  Oh thanks for that link, I didn't know about it, pre-ordered!
- ezst 9mo ago
  Hope there's a timeline in which banking and corporate apps can run/be enrolled on that. If the current geopolitical mess from the USA isn't a good-enough reason to make it happen, I don't know what is.

goku12 9mo ago

> Maybe 2026 will be the year of Linux on mobile phone. Considering the ongoing DRAM and SSD crunch, I won't hold my breath.

opan 9mo ago
This could actually be a reason to work on better supporting older "Android" phones in postmarketOS, to keep the hardware people already have working.

fsflover 9mo ago

Why are all commenters on HN ignoring the only smartphone running an FSF-endorsed [0] operating system, Librem 5, and only list everything else? I just can't get it. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25504641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25504641

charcircuit 9mo ago
Because it was a kickstarter that was run like a scam, was years late to deliver the first device, the hardware was already not good at the start due picking an automotive SOC, the form factor was bulky, and the software was really buggy. GrapheneOS is a much more practical open source OS to use Linux on a phone.
- zozbot234 9mo ago
  GrapheneOS is not solving the actual interesting problem (running on an entirely mainline kernel, just like on x86). It's effectively a hardened variety of LineageOS/AOSP, hence entirely reliant on device-specific downstream kernels/BSPs that will never see a feature update. BTW, hardware support on postmarketOS "community" class devices has seen some nice improvements as of late. Once these improvements meaningfully stabilize (avoiding the risk of regression/breakage; there's been some of that even in the recent testing for the 2025-12 stable release) it's quite possible that some "community" devices might finally reach "main" class, marking them as OK for daily-driver use. Something to watch for as we approach 2026-06.
  - charcircuit 9mo ago
    >GrapheneOS is not solving the actual interesting problem Consumers don't care how interesting the developer's problems are. They want their own problems to be solved and GrapheneOS does a better job of that. >running on an entirely mainline kernel Google already did that work years ago. Android will work on a mainline kernel. Just like with x86 the mainline kernel needs to support the hardware e you want to use though.
    - 9mo ago