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I have a controversial question; In the UK, they have blade runners who take down CCTV. I would have expected a more aggressive response in the USA, considering

I have a controversial question; In the UK, they have blade runners who take down CCTV. I would have expected a more aggressive response in the USA, considering the culture. Is this not happening?

sixo 9mo ago
Our anti-police-state faction is toothless, while the "aggressive" faction is the one trying to install the police state.
- esafak 9mo ago
  Toothless or defanged? https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/designating-antifa-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/desi...
- rainonmoon 9mo ago
  The gutless liberals that dominate your country’s preconceptions of “the left” are not your anti-police state faction, but you do their work for them by conflating the two. The anti-police state faction are the ones habitually being physically brutalised if not outright murdered by the cops while the media wags their finger at them for their apparent lack of civility.
rrix2 9mo ago
Many of the flock cameras in my city were disabled by bashing in the solar panels or damaging the camera lens. Unfortunately, flock's contract is such that the city pays for repairs/replacement
- rationalist 9mo ago
  Is there an inflection point at which the city would decide it's not worth renewing the contract?
  - mjevans 9mo ago
    Given the utter lack of enforcement on actual nuisances (noise / burning violations, 'eyesore' / private property abuse via trash / abandoned things / unsanctioned business actives in residential zones, petty theft prevention / enforcement) and the aggressive enforcement on any revenue generation laws that target citizens who will responsibly pay? I anticipate the apathy to continue, and the bill to be passed along as some form of regressive tax.
- loteck 9mo ago
  What city is this?
  - chrneu 9mo ago
    i live in oregon and a bunch of the flock cameras have been vandalized. a lot of the oregon towns/cities decided to cancel or not renew their contracts though, so I think they just let em get broken and then didnt pay to repair them.
john-h-k 9mo ago
The noble blade runners who are valiantly fighting for… more air pollution
Shadowmist 9mo ago
Go to their homepage and read about the drone capabilities.
AngryData 9mo ago
Somewhat, but the legal cosequences for getting caught and brought to court if you don't have a few thousand to drop on a lawyer will screw up your life. So it happens less. Not to mention the risk of dealing with trigger happy and corrupt cops.
- kobieps 9mo ago
  Won't it will screw up your life in the UK too?
  - AngryData 9mo ago
    It isn't good but I doubt the UK punishment would be nearly as harsh or expensive and the possibility of death isn't on the menu when the cops come to arrest them.
monkaiju 9mo ago
I mean we're also increasingly being terrorized by our new gestapo, so far with limited resistance. We aren't really the "radical freedom defenders" we like to claim to be...
crawfordcomeaux 9mo ago
Americans are largely cowards. You can see this as we're still mostly afraid of accurately defining and educating about genocide and how we all contribute to it by going to work every day, as well as afraid of feelings that arise around it.
- hackable_sand 9mo ago
  Also afraid to pay reparations and give land back to natives. Both would be easier and cheaper than starting WWIII because sadge.
  - crawfordcomeaux 9mo ago
    I hope to one day contribute to a geoglyph of asphalt from torn up roads, if that's what's regenerative for the land I'm with/on/of/from/being and what the stewards of the land we gave back identify as needed. Would contribute to a geoglyph of anything else, too. I want to build community through making visible-from-space-sized art projects with those from all around. And then go back to the plague pod I live in that's large enough to meet everyone's needs while keeping population density low enough to get rid of the plagues or make them a much smaller threat.
    - hackable_sand 9mo ago
      Do you prefer petrol soup or cockroach bars
subscribed 9mo ago
They are not "taking down CCTV", they're destroying the infrastructure that lowers car fumes pollution. These cameras are not used for anything else. You know, that thing killing school children: https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/air-pollution-ella-kissi-debrah-coroner-death-ruling-DWynSz_2/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/air-pollution-ella-kissi-debra... The evidence for ULEZ is solid so seriously bringing it as an example of white knight activity whole they're at best malignant, brainwashed goons doesn't help anyone: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67653609 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67653609
- vimredo 9mo ago
  I don't understand? I did some basic research, and it doesn't seem like these cameras have air quality sensors. How exactly would some Android cameras reduce pollution?
  - subscribed 9mo ago
    The "blade runners" this other guy loves so much, are vandalising enforcement cameras on the boundaries of the London's ULEZ area, allowing the very dirty, polluting cars to enter the area without paying a significant fee (that is intended to keep them out). Read up about ULEZ.

I have a controversial question; In the UK, they have blade runners who take down CCTV. I would have expected a more aggressive response in the USA, considering the culture. Is this not happening?

sixo 9mo ago

Our anti-police-state faction is toothless, while the "aggressive" faction is the one trying to install the police state.

esafak 9mo ago
Toothless or defanged? https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/designating-antifa-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/desi...
rainonmoon 9mo ago
The gutless liberals that dominate your country’s preconceptions of “the left” are not your anti-police state faction, but you do their work for them by conflating the two. The anti-police state faction are the ones habitually being physically brutalised if not outright murdered by the cops while the media wags their finger at them for their apparent lack of civility.

rrix2 9mo ago

Many of the flock cameras in my city were disabled by bashing in the solar panels or damaging the camera lens. Unfortunately, flock's contract is such that the city pays for repairs/replacement

rationalist 9mo ago
Is there an inflection point at which the city would decide it's not worth renewing the contract?
- mjevans 9mo ago
  Given the utter lack of enforcement on actual nuisances (noise / burning violations, 'eyesore' / private property abuse via trash / abandoned things / unsanctioned business actives in residential zones, petty theft prevention / enforcement) and the aggressive enforcement on any revenue generation laws that target citizens who will responsibly pay? I anticipate the apathy to continue, and the bill to be passed along as some form of regressive tax.
loteck 9mo ago
What city is this?
- chrneu 9mo ago
  i live in oregon and a bunch of the flock cameras have been vandalized. a lot of the oregon towns/cities decided to cancel or not renew their contracts though, so I think they just let em get broken and then didnt pay to repair them.

john-h-k 9mo ago

The noble blade runners who are valiantly fighting for… more air pollution

Shadowmist 9mo ago

Go to their homepage and read about the drone capabilities.

AngryData 9mo ago

Somewhat, but the legal cosequences for getting caught and brought to court if you don't have a few thousand to drop on a lawyer will screw up your life. So it happens less. Not to mention the risk of dealing with trigger happy and corrupt cops.

kobieps 9mo ago
Won't it will screw up your life in the UK too?
- AngryData 9mo ago
  It isn't good but I doubt the UK punishment would be nearly as harsh or expensive and the possibility of death isn't on the menu when the cops come to arrest them.

monkaiju 9mo ago

I mean we're also increasingly being terrorized by our new gestapo, so far with limited resistance. We aren't really the "radical freedom defenders" we like to claim to be...

crawfordcomeaux 9mo ago

Americans are largely cowards. You can see this as we're still mostly afraid of accurately defining and educating about genocide and how we all contribute to it by going to work every day, as well as afraid of feelings that arise around it.

hackable_sand 9mo ago
Also afraid to pay reparations and give land back to natives. Both would be easier and cheaper than starting WWIII because sadge.
- crawfordcomeaux 9mo ago
  I hope to one day contribute to a geoglyph of asphalt from torn up roads, if that's what's regenerative for the land I'm with/on/of/from/being and what the stewards of the land we gave back identify as needed. Would contribute to a geoglyph of anything else, too. I want to build community through making visible-from-space-sized art projects with those from all around. And then go back to the plague pod I live in that's large enough to meet everyone's needs while keeping population density low enough to get rid of the plagues or make them a much smaller threat.
  - hackable_sand 9mo ago
    Do you prefer petrol soup or cockroach bars

subscribed 9mo ago

They are not "taking down CCTV", they're destroying the infrastructure that lowers car fumes pollution. These cameras are not used for anything else. You know, that thing killing school children: https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/air-pollution-ella-kissi-debrah-coroner-death-ruling-DWynSz_2/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/air-pollution-ella-kissi-debra... The evidence for ULEZ is solid so seriously bringing it as an example of white knight activity whole they're at best malignant, brainwashed goons doesn't help anyone: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67653609 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67653609

vimredo 9mo ago
I don't understand? I did some basic research, and it doesn't seem like these cameras have air quality sensors. How exactly would some Android cameras reduce pollution?
- subscribed 9mo ago
  The "blade runners" this other guy loves so much, are vandalising enforcement cameras on the boundaries of the London's ULEZ area, allowing the very dirty, polluting cars to enter the area without paying a significant fee (that is intended to keep them out). Read up about ULEZ.