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To me as a Canadian, the absurd part is that ordinary people are expected to have "registered" with a party (as opposed to registering with the independent orga
by zahlman 10mo ago
To me as a Canadian, the absurd part is that ordinary people are expected to have "registered" with a party (as opposed to registering with the independent organization that runs elections, like we do; they automate getting most of the voter roll from Revenue Canada, but this requires your explicit consent on the tax form).
- LorenzoGood 10mo agoThis is just for primaries, you register to vote with the state as well.
- buellerbueller 10mo agoStill absurd that "free" "democratic" elections are allowed to require party membership, even for the primary.
- lbotos 10mo agoHow do you envision this working without the "opposing party" poisoning the vote to get a weaker opponent?
- buellerbueller 10mo agoI envision that it does not matter, because this is a tactic that would 1) be available to all, and 2) it gives up your vote for someone of your own party, thereby weakening your own position. It's self regulating.
- mothballed 10mo agoCan't they do that now? If I think my chosen primary guy is winning in a landslide I could just register for another party I don't like and vote for someone who I think is easier to beat.
- yunwal 10mo agoYou would still forfeit the ability to vote in your primary though. I do think there are people that do this, but most people want to vote in their primary regardless of whether it's a landslide.
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- bell-cot 10mo agoIs actual party membership required? Or, in effect, are you just required to claim either that you're more of a cat person, or that you're more of a dog person?
- 1-more 10mo agoYeah it's the latter. The US does not have party membership the way that, say, the UK does. In many states, it's open primary. In Colorado, for instance, I get mailed Democratic and Republican primary ballots and can vote by mailing in either one. I think you get neither counted if you mail in both, but I have no idea; I've never tried it. The last time anyone tried to poison a presidential election by promoting a weaker candidate on the other side in the US, it was the Democrats boosting Trump in 2016. It did not work out.
- Izkata 10mo agoFor an alternate example, in Illinois you choose one at primary election time and only get that one. This year the options are Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, and Non-Partisan (which means only the referendums, not the elections).
- 1-more 10mo agoHow long before the election do you have to choose? In NY for instance it's months in advance that you have to register with the state party to vote in the primary.
- schnable 10mo agoWhat's the purpose of a primary election? It's to select a party's candidate for a general election. It's not very obvious that this should even be a democratic process, but if it is, why shouldn't party members be the ones selecting their own candidates?
- buellerbueller 10mo agoIt's funded by tax dollars, and regulated by local and state laws. If they want their own private primaries, then it should happen internally and at the parties' own expense.
- zahlman 10mo agoIn Canada, those votes happen independently as decided (deemed necessary) internally by the party, and public participation is much less common.
- SketchySeaBeast 10mo agoThis would kind of be the same as us (I'm Canadian too) registering with the NDP so we can vote for the next leader. But the level of lying on display here is just insane.
- technothrasher 10mo agoI've never once registered with a party in the US. I always check "independent" on my voter registration. But I'm in a state with open primaries, so I can still vote in one or the other primary, even though I'm not registered with the party.