Oh no worries. Just speaking for myself that isn't going to happen. Things were bad enough between 2000 and 2007 when I was living on the US border, since then

Oh no worries. Just speaking for myself that isn't going to happen. Things were bad enough between 2000 and 2007 when I was living on the US border, since then they've gotten so much worse that I wasn't planning on it, even if I'm not required to put up a five figure bond. Maybe one day the USA will rejoin civilization but there are enough countries to choose from as it is. For me the main yardstick by which I measure how civilized a country is is by observing how the authorities treat people who have little or no power within the system.