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They have released a version of the masked agent's bodycam. Seems to be another Rorschach test: they released it because they think it's exculpatory, but to my

They have released a version of the masked agent's bodycam. Seems to be another Rorschach test: they released it because they think it's exculpatory, but to my eyes it's even worse. He's engaged in a petty argument with the driver, tries to block her car with his body as she drives away, shoots her, then says "fuckin' bitch!" after he's killed her. https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mbz3va3en22e https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mbz3v...

empath75 9mo ago
Her last words to him are "I'm not mad at you"
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metaphysicalyes 9mo ago
Very convenient because right around the moments of shooting the video goes blank and the viewer can confirm the below preconceived notions: 1. The masked gunman was in grave danger when in fact he had stepped aside. 2. The car accelerated rapidly before the shots instead of after the driver was in immeasurable agony. 3. All three shots by masked gunman were in self defense. Not that the next two shots were in the driver's face from side window while standing well clear of the vehicle.
- zahlman 9mo ago
  All of this happens in a split second. It's simply not possible, in the evidenced time frame, to fire one shot in self defense and then realign and fire two more with murderous intent. It is also not at all plausible that the position of the two individuals could have changed that much in between the shots. It's also very clear in other video that the officer has been struck and his balance severely disturbed; it takes considerable time for him to recover and he has very clearly fired all three shots before he has properly stood up. In short, other video evidence clearly rules out any possibility that "he had stepped aside". And we can see the relative timing of when the SUV's wheels start to spin, too, even in the video from behind the SUV where Good is obscured from view by the other officer.
tstrimple 9mo ago
I wish this video would put an end to the claims that she was blocking traffic. This video makes it clear that the very person who shot her was the one who blocked traffic. She was trying to get around that vehicle. Unfortunately I know it won't.
- bananabiscuit 9mo ago
  https://x.com/i/status/2010037103665787019 https://x.com/i/status/2010037103665787019
  - mindslight 9mo ago
    What specific vehicle(s) in that video are being blocked? The posted commentary sounds like it's an open and shut case, but this is what I saw from it: Before we first see the Pilot, a black Jeep starts to head up the road, then decided to reverse the other way instead. Presumably this is due to the Pilot, but it is unclear of whether they approached and asked to go past but were denied, or whether they simply didn't want to get involved. The first time we see the Pilot it is blocking both travel lanes, but nobody is trying to go past. Next we see another vehicle further up the road (red minivan) stopped across both travel lanes as well (it could have also informed the Jeep's desire to go the other way). Four cars then head down the street towards the Pilot, with one pulling over to the right decently before her. The next time the camera pans back to the Pilot, it is only blocking one lane and those 3 cars have seemingly gone past. More cars head down the street, with some combination of going by her and stopping near her. But all the cars that are stopped around her appear to have stopped of their own volition rather than because they were blocked. My conclusion from this video is that she was not blocking traffic, but she was being a nuisance with her horn. But in this situation, that horn usage would be Constitutionally-protected speech, and any speech-orthogonal daytime noise disturbance ordinance would not be under federal jurisdiction. Being an asshole isn't a crime worthy of summary execution, is it?
    - zahlman 9mo ago
      > The first time we see the Pilot it is blocking both travel lanes And it stays in this position for a considerable period of time, while Good's partner is walking around outside the vehicle and behaving belligerently. The fact that she waves some cars past certainly doesn't negate the apparent intent to obstruct the ICE vehicle. > Being an asshole isn't a crime worthy of summary execution, is it? Resisting arrest in a manner that causes a LEO reasonable fear of death or serious harm, as an objective matter of settled case law, justifies the LEO's use of lethal force. Relevant case law specific to the situation where someone is trying to flee, includes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_v._Connor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_v._Connor .
zahlman 9mo ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ice-agent-shooting-video-minnesota-renee-good-9.7040480 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ice-agent-shooting-video-minne... > He's engaged in a petty argument with the driver No; the argument occurs outside the vehicle, and is with the driver's partner. And it is not so much of an "argument" as him being repeatedly provoked with statements such as "You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead." > tries to block her car with his body No, he does not. He happened to move around the front of the car, which is consistent with circling the car to get video footage of it from all angles which would be part of expected evidence-gathering protocol. The car can be seen (including in other video) to move back and realign as he is walking in front. > then says "fuckin' bitch!" after he's killed her. Even left-wing sources like the CBC concede that "It is unclear who said those words."

empath75 9mo ago

Her last words to him are "I'm not mad at you"

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metaphysicalyes 9mo ago

Very convenient because right around the moments of shooting the video goes blank and the viewer can confirm the below preconceived notions: 1. The masked gunman was in grave danger when in fact he had stepped aside. 2. The car accelerated rapidly before the shots instead of after the driver was in immeasurable agony. 3. All three shots by masked gunman were in self defense. Not that the next two shots were in the driver's face from side window while standing well clear of the vehicle.

zahlman 9mo ago
All of this happens in a split second. It's simply not possible, in the evidenced time frame, to fire one shot in self defense and then realign and fire two more with murderous intent. It is also not at all plausible that the position of the two individuals could have changed that much in between the shots. It's also very clear in other video that the officer has been struck and his balance severely disturbed; it takes considerable time for him to recover and he has very clearly fired all three shots before he has properly stood up. In short, other video evidence clearly rules out any possibility that "he had stepped aside". And we can see the relative timing of when the SUV's wheels start to spin, too, even in the video from behind the SUV where Good is obscured from view by the other officer.

tstrimple 9mo ago

I wish this video would put an end to the claims that she was blocking traffic. This video makes it clear that the very person who shot her was the one who blocked traffic. She was trying to get around that vehicle. Unfortunately I know it won't.

bananabiscuit 9mo ago
https://x.com/i/status/2010037103665787019 https://x.com/i/status/2010037103665787019
- mindslight 9mo ago
  What specific vehicle(s) in that video are being blocked? The posted commentary sounds like it's an open and shut case, but this is what I saw from it: Before we first see the Pilot, a black Jeep starts to head up the road, then decided to reverse the other way instead. Presumably this is due to the Pilot, but it is unclear of whether they approached and asked to go past but were denied, or whether they simply didn't want to get involved. The first time we see the Pilot it is blocking both travel lanes, but nobody is trying to go past. Next we see another vehicle further up the road (red minivan) stopped across both travel lanes as well (it could have also informed the Jeep's desire to go the other way). Four cars then head down the street towards the Pilot, with one pulling over to the right decently before her. The next time the camera pans back to the Pilot, it is only blocking one lane and those 3 cars have seemingly gone past. More cars head down the street, with some combination of going by her and stopping near her. But all the cars that are stopped around her appear to have stopped of their own volition rather than because they were blocked. My conclusion from this video is that she was not blocking traffic, but she was being a nuisance with her horn. But in this situation, that horn usage would be Constitutionally-protected speech, and any speech-orthogonal daytime noise disturbance ordinance would not be under federal jurisdiction. Being an asshole isn't a crime worthy of summary execution, is it?
  - zahlman 9mo ago
    > The first time we see the Pilot it is blocking both travel lanes And it stays in this position for a considerable period of time, while Good's partner is walking around outside the vehicle and behaving belligerently. The fact that she waves some cars past certainly doesn't negate the apparent intent to obstruct the ICE vehicle. > Being an asshole isn't a crime worthy of summary execution, is it? Resisting arrest in a manner that causes a LEO reasonable fear of death or serious harm, as an objective matter of settled case law, justifies the LEO's use of lethal force. Relevant case law specific to the situation where someone is trying to flee, includes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_v._Connor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_v._Connor .

zahlman 9mo ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ice-agent-shooting-video-minnesota-renee-good-9.7040480 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ice-agent-shooting-video-minne... > He's engaged in a petty argument with the driver No; the argument occurs outside the vehicle, and is with the driver's partner. And it is not so much of an "argument" as him being repeatedly provoked with statements such as "You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead." > tries to block her car with his body No, he does not. He happened to move around the front of the car, which is consistent with circling the car to get video footage of it from all angles which would be part of expected evidence-gathering protocol. The car can be seen (including in other video) to move back and realign as he is walking in front. > then says "fuckin' bitch!" after he's killed her. Even left-wing sources like the CBC concede that "It is unclear who said those words."