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I agree with the CEO, while also feeling a bit nauseous at the MAGA Musk suck-up at the end - I suppose this is the game you have to play with this current admi

I agree with the CEO, while also feeling a bit nauseous at the MAGA Musk suck-up at the end - I suppose this is the game you have to play with this current administration.

deadbabe 9mo ago
It really doesn’t matter what administration is in charge, at a certain level you have to curry favor with whatever administration is in power and hold your true motives close to your chest. People seem to think what people say in public is perfect knowledge of their true intentions. No. What they say is what they want someone to hear them say. There is nothing to gain by saying what you really feel, no one can prove it’s what you really feel anyway.
- ben_w 9mo ago
  Yup. Plenty of activists on the other side of the spectrum note of "greenwashing" and "pinkwashing", nice words about the environment or LGBT+ rights without any noticeable action beyond adding a temporary pride badge to social media accounts in pride month or a picture of a wind turbine on their website.
- miltonlost 9mo ago
  You really don't have to praise fascists.
- NewJazz 9mo ago
  Yeah well nobody glazed Biden or Kamala's dicks that hard.
  - jacquesm 9mo ago
    In at least half those cases I can see why. Maybe choose your metaphors a bit more classy?
    - NewJazz 9mo ago
      Classy? In this economy?? I'm fringe class bro.
  - deadbabe 9mo ago
    Because it got you nothing
    - NewJazz 9mo ago
      Isn't that a good thing?
      - deadbabe 9mo ago
        Yes, because then you don’t have to come out and make these forced public statements
tjwebbnorfolk 9mo ago
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- undeveloper 9mo ago
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- nofriend 9mo ago
  Yes and yes. Individuals have their own political views. In tech, those are overwhelmingly liberal. It follows that they would implement liberal policies of their own accord. This isn't sucking up to some policy that happens to be favoured by trump, this is sucking up to trump himself.
- speff 9mo ago
  Google and Verizon were under fire recently from the DOJ for not complying with the govt's anti-DEI stance quickly enough[0]. If these policies truly aren't in the companies best interests, they would've dropped the policies on Jan 20th. Instead, they chose to continue them. I don't see how this squares with your assertion that they don't want to continue following DEI in staffing. [0]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/doj-targets-google-verizon-s-dei-programs-in-fraud-investigation/ar-AA1Terru https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/doj-targets-google...
- UqWBcuFx6NV4r 9mo ago
  Yes, I do. “DEI bureaucracies” is a meaningless political term. I am truly (not) sorry about whatever HR interaction has soured you. Not everything every company does is related to US politics let alone that of the last 10 years. These “DEI bureaucracies” pre-date your “Biden administration”. Believe it or not, there are many, many organisations that do not operate in or export to the US. Many of them have what I’m sure you would call “DEI bureaucracies”. What’s your explanation?
tomp 9mo ago
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rpdillon 9mo ago
Yeah, it's weird. I don't like the law in Italy, Cloudflare, or the current US administration, but I'm fairly anti-censorship, so I feel compelled to side with Cloudflare unless more info comes to light.

I agree with the CEO, while also feeling a bit nauseous at the MAGA Musk suck-up at the end - I suppose this is the game you have to play with this current administration.

deadbabe 9mo ago

It really doesn’t matter what administration is in charge, at a certain level you have to curry favor with whatever administration is in power and hold your true motives close to your chest. People seem to think what people say in public is perfect knowledge of their true intentions. No. What they say is what they want someone to hear them say. There is nothing to gain by saying what you really feel, no one can prove it’s what you really feel anyway.

ben_w 9mo ago
Yup. Plenty of activists on the other side of the spectrum note of "greenwashing" and "pinkwashing", nice words about the environment or LGBT+ rights without any noticeable action beyond adding a temporary pride badge to social media accounts in pride month or a picture of a wind turbine on their website.
miltonlost 9mo ago
You really don't have to praise fascists.
NewJazz 9mo ago
Yeah well nobody glazed Biden or Kamala's dicks that hard.
- jacquesm 9mo ago
  In at least half those cases I can see why. Maybe choose your metaphors a bit more classy?
  - NewJazz 9mo ago
    Classy? In this economy?? I'm fringe class bro.
- deadbabe 9mo ago
  Because it got you nothing
  - NewJazz 9mo ago
    Isn't that a good thing?
    - deadbabe 9mo ago
      Yes, because then you don’t have to come out and make these forced public statements

tjwebbnorfolk 9mo ago

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undeveloper 9mo ago
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nofriend 9mo ago
Yes and yes. Individuals have their own political views. In tech, those are overwhelmingly liberal. It follows that they would implement liberal policies of their own accord. This isn't sucking up to some policy that happens to be favoured by trump, this is sucking up to trump himself.
speff 9mo ago
Google and Verizon were under fire recently from the DOJ for not complying with the govt's anti-DEI stance quickly enough[0]. If these policies truly aren't in the companies best interests, they would've dropped the policies on Jan 20th. Instead, they chose to continue them. I don't see how this squares with your assertion that they don't want to continue following DEI in staffing. [0]: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/doj-targets-google-verizon-s-dei-programs-in-fraud-investigation/ar-AA1Terru https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/doj-targets-google...
UqWBcuFx6NV4r 9mo ago
Yes, I do. “DEI bureaucracies” is a meaningless political term. I am truly (not) sorry about whatever HR interaction has soured you. Not everything every company does is related to US politics let alone that of the last 10 years. These “DEI bureaucracies” pre-date your “Biden administration”. Believe it or not, there are many, many organisations that do not operate in or export to the US. Many of them have what I’m sure you would call “DEI bureaucracies”. What’s your explanation?

tomp 9mo ago

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rpdillon 9mo ago

Yeah, it's weird. I don't like the law in Italy, Cloudflare, or the current US administration, but I'm fairly anti-censorship, so I feel compelled to side with Cloudflare unless more info comes to light.