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How is this even relevant to the discussion at hand? The issue from the article is that an "Immigration" agency used lethal violence against a _citizen of the

by lesuorac 10mo ago

How is this even relevant to the discussion at hand? The issue from the article is that an "Immigration" agency used lethal violence against a _citizen of the US_. This is not an illegal aliens issue.

Jensson 10mo ago
The original poster was the one that questioned the funding, so talking about funding is on topic. The illegal aliens issue is why they need so much funding. USA has a bigger illegal alien issue than any other developed country, so to fix that it makes sense they need more funding to try to solve it.
- lesuorac 10mo ago
  By definition a US citizen is not an illegal alien. OP is right to question if ICE should have an unlimited budget when they're clearly using that budget on things that are _not_ immigration (illegal aliens).
- tombert 10mo ago
  It is questionable that they need that much money, especially when it appears that a lot of the workforce is being used to suppress protests and work more or less as a private army of the convicted fraudster that Americans apparently thought it would be wise to provide the nuclear codes to. Keep in mind, if you defined ICE as a military, it would be the thirteenth largest on the planet [1]. I have yet to see an argument or study that indicates that our immigration problem is costing us more than Poland's entire military, and I have seen a lot of evidence that immigration is a net positive in the US. You could say something like "BUT, BUT, BUT HE'S ONLY GOING AFTER THE ILLEGALS YOU WANT ILLEGALS HERE HAHAHA WOKE LEFTY OPEN BORDERS <insert other idiotic conservative buzzword>", but determining whether or not the person in question is here "legally" clearly has not been the priority of this current administration and its weird militarization of ICE. [1] https://www.nationalpriorities.org/pressroom/articles/2025/10/05/ice-immigration-chicago-trump-broadview/ https://www.nationalpriorities.org/pressroom/articles/2025/1...

Jensson 10mo ago

The original poster was the one that questioned the funding, so talking about funding is on topic. The illegal aliens issue is why they need so much funding. USA has a bigger illegal alien issue than any other developed country, so to fix that it makes sense they need more funding to try to solve it.

lesuorac 10mo ago
By definition a US citizen is not an illegal alien. OP is right to question if ICE should have an unlimited budget when they're clearly using that budget on things that are _not_ immigration (illegal aliens).
tombert 10mo ago
It is questionable that they need that much money, especially when it appears that a lot of the workforce is being used to suppress protests and work more or less as a private army of the convicted fraudster that Americans apparently thought it would be wise to provide the nuclear codes to. Keep in mind, if you defined ICE as a military, it would be the thirteenth largest on the planet [1]. I have yet to see an argument or study that indicates that our immigration problem is costing us more than Poland's entire military, and I have seen a lot of evidence that immigration is a net positive in the US. You could say something like "BUT, BUT, BUT HE'S ONLY GOING AFTER THE ILLEGALS YOU WANT ILLEGALS HERE HAHAHA WOKE LEFTY OPEN BORDERS <insert other idiotic conservative buzzword>", but determining whether or not the person in question is here "legally" clearly has not been the priority of this current administration and its weird militarization of ICE. [1] https://www.nationalpriorities.org/pressroom/articles/2025/10/05/ice-immigration-chicago-trump-broadview/ https://www.nationalpriorities.org/pressroom/articles/2025/1...