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I'm sorry, but it is deeply ironic for you of all people to be posting this given your statements on the ICE shooting not even 24 hours ago [1] [2]. You are qui

I'm sorry, but it is deeply ironic for you of all people to be posting this given your statements on the ICE shooting not even 24 hours ago [1] [2]. You are quite literally the exact basis for this research in question. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46546310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46546310 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46546283 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46546283

like_any_other 9mo ago
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- TimorousBestie 9mo ago
  If you want to relitigate this please go do it in the other thread.
Lerc 9mo ago
In this particular instance I don't think he's wrong, The posts in the links could be considered evidence of how pervasive the outrage/blindness effect is.
thrance 9mo ago
This guy has made half a dozen comments saying her murder was justified, but some views seem to be immune to moderation on here. I've had dang or tomhow come at me for waaay less (and I'm not saying I was in the right).
- RickJWagner 9mo ago
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  - thrance 9mo ago
    See, you're doing it again. For god's sake just stop. Pulling a gun and firing at someone is murder. Her vehicle escaped without harming any of the masked gestapo thugs going after her, she did her best to quickly get out of a life threatening situation from people who are known to resort to violence for no good reason. Oh look, two more victims in Portland today. Will you also claim that they were terrorists and deserved immediate execution? Do you actually like living in a country where masked federal agents can arrest you whenever they feel like, and murder you just for annoying them?
    - RickJWagner 9mo ago
      To be called a murder, it requires an investigation and consideration by the authorities. You don’t get to just make things up. Be mature.
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      - hypeatei 9mo ago
        What about calling her a domestic terrorist? Does that take an investigation? How about, instead of playing lawyer against a random on HN, you play lawyer against The President of the United States and hold our leadership to account.
        cindyllm 9mo ago
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      - thrance 9mo ago
        But confidently asserting she was trying to kill the ICE agent does not? Get real.
RickJWagner 9mo ago
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- fzeroracer 9mo ago
  I do condemn Obama and think his actions were monstrous. Do you therefore condemn Trump and believe the actions of ICE here were monstrous? A simple question for you.
  - hypeatei 9mo ago
    You've made a grave mistake conceding that because parent is bad faith and he basically just wants a screenshot of others saying Obama was bad. It's a weird obsessions of his. Obama is a main stay in responses critical of Trump.
    - fzeroracer 9mo ago
      It wasn't any sort of concession, it's something I genuinely have said before in the past and fully maintain. But it's a great and easy way to tear down that these folks don't have any sort of ideological basis beyond identity. They believe that the other side is just as tribalistic as them, that they can win by simply going ah but you believe Obama good. It's the same reason why they believe the murder was justified, not because of any factual basis but because she was 'the other'. You can see in the other comment that rather than address the actual issue, they instead pivot to an entirely different justification. Because they know their position is truly indefensible and the only way they can win is by continuing to shift the debate. Rather than talk about the extrajudicial murder of an American citizen, you shift the debate to talking about how we need to curb illegal immigration. Because then you can avoid thinking about what happens when Americans are murdered by the state.
  - RickJWagner 9mo ago
    That’s a great question. I condemn neither Obama nor Trump. I believe letting people skip the legal immigration process is unfair to those that follow the rules, and it invites security problems and other issues. To be clear, I am in favor of immigration, but greatly prefer legal immigration. If you condemn both, I respect your integrity. A good day to you.

like_any_other 9mo ago

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TimorousBestie 9mo ago
If you want to relitigate this please go do it in the other thread.

Lerc 9mo ago

In this particular instance I don't think he's wrong, The posts in the links could be considered evidence of how pervasive the outrage/blindness effect is.

thrance 9mo ago

This guy has made half a dozen comments saying her murder was justified, but some views seem to be immune to moderation on here. I've had dang or tomhow come at me for waaay less (and I'm not saying I was in the right).

RickJWagner 9mo ago
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- thrance 9mo ago
  See, you're doing it again. For god's sake just stop. Pulling a gun and firing at someone is murder. Her vehicle escaped without harming any of the masked gestapo thugs going after her, she did her best to quickly get out of a life threatening situation from people who are known to resort to violence for no good reason. Oh look, two more victims in Portland today. Will you also claim that they were terrorists and deserved immediate execution? Do you actually like living in a country where masked federal agents can arrest you whenever they feel like, and murder you just for annoying them?
  - RickJWagner 9mo ago
    To be called a murder, it requires an investigation and consideration by the authorities. You don’t get to just make things up. Be mature.
    - deleted 9mo ago
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    - hypeatei 9mo ago
      What about calling her a domestic terrorist? Does that take an investigation? How about, instead of playing lawyer against a random on HN, you play lawyer against The President of the United States and hold our leadership to account.
      - cindyllm 9mo ago
        [dead]
      - deleted 9mo ago
        [deleted]
    - thrance 9mo ago
      But confidently asserting she was trying to kill the ICE agent does not? Get real.

RickJWagner 9mo ago

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fzeroracer 9mo ago
I do condemn Obama and think his actions were monstrous. Do you therefore condemn Trump and believe the actions of ICE here were monstrous? A simple question for you.
- hypeatei 9mo ago
  You've made a grave mistake conceding that because parent is bad faith and he basically just wants a screenshot of others saying Obama was bad. It's a weird obsessions of his. Obama is a main stay in responses critical of Trump.
  - fzeroracer 9mo ago
    It wasn't any sort of concession, it's something I genuinely have said before in the past and fully maintain. But it's a great and easy way to tear down that these folks don't have any sort of ideological basis beyond identity. They believe that the other side is just as tribalistic as them, that they can win by simply going ah but you believe Obama good. It's the same reason why they believe the murder was justified, not because of any factual basis but because she was 'the other'. You can see in the other comment that rather than address the actual issue, they instead pivot to an entirely different justification. Because they know their position is truly indefensible and the only way they can win is by continuing to shift the debate. Rather than talk about the extrajudicial murder of an American citizen, you shift the debate to talking about how we need to curb illegal immigration. Because then you can avoid thinking about what happens when Americans are murdered by the state.
- RickJWagner 9mo ago
  That’s a great question. I condemn neither Obama nor Trump. I believe letting people skip the legal immigration process is unfair to those that follow the rules, and it invites security problems and other issues. To be clear, I am in favor of immigration, but greatly prefer legal immigration. If you condemn both, I respect your integrity. A good day to you.