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> Yeah, because millions of people are just stupid remote-controlled robotic zombies who will, upon a command of the CIA, go into the streets against Basij thug
by jasonvorhe 9mo ago
> Yeah, because millions of people are just stupid remote-controlled robotic zombies who will, upon a command of the CIA, go into the streets against Basij thugs who are willing to shoot at them.
What a lazy and ignorant attempt of spinning this. That's on the same level as the "so many people would know, no one could keep it a secret" fact check drivel. You don't need people to be stupid, "remote-controlled" nor robotic zombies. You just need to keep on funding assets, recruit new people and the seeds will form a groundwork sooner or later.
I recommend picking up a book on this some time: https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/cia-intervention https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/cia-intervention
Some of these operations werde decades long.
> But I find the opinion that everyone in the world just obediently dances by someone's flute quite dehumanizing.
Basically no one means this when they speak of regime change operations and people participating in it.
I know a few activists who were involved in sending dialup numbers to fax machines during the Arab Spring during the Internet blackout in Egypt and most of them are pretty much aware that they were mostly pawns for Western governments.
- inglor_cz 9mo agoIranian economy is absolutely terrible, their government hangs people like there is no tomorrow, the ayatollahs dip their beaks into every viable business and steal like crows, the official ideology of the system is a primitive medieval theocracy pushed on educated and modern people. Plus the very same government, after spending a lot of money on arming itself, proved incapable of beating back an aerial assault of the "Little Satan" back in June. If I lived in Iran, I would need no CIA to be angry about the status quo.
- jasonvorhe 9mo agoNot at all what I was saying and I know all that. The Iranians have all reasons to be angry at their government. No one disputes that.
- energy123 9mo ago> Basically no one means this when they speak of regime change operations and people participating in it. They do though. Spinning the 2014 Maidan Revolution as a fully illegitimate CIA-backed coup (with the implicit conclusion that it's against the will of the people) is one of the main rhetorical pillars used to justify Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
- jasonvorhe 9mo agoWell, can't argue with facts, unless you believe the fact checkers.