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>> “The only, absolute and best friend a man has, in this selfish world, the only one that will not betray or deny him, is his dog.” Well, this is far from abs

>> “The only, absolute and best friend a man has, in this selfish world, the only one that will not betray or deny him, is his dog.” Well, this is far from absolute, isn't it? :) There's a fair number of vicious attacks of a dog on his owner. Oftentimes pitbulls (are they even dogs or rather "creatures"?!), but other breeds do it too. So ... nothing is absolute :P

gradschool 9mo ago
For another example of betrayal, one of the cronies in Katherine the Great's court always gave a dog to his girlfriends whenever he started a new relationship. Then if the dog ever greeted some other guy familiarly, he inferred he was falling out of favor. He probably learned that trick when someone did it to him, because he would let the other guy know how he was rumbled before graciously bowing out.
inahga 9mo ago
Mostly, if not entirely due to intentionally poor breeding practices. Who betrayed who?
- IAmBroom 9mo ago
  Mostly, if not entirely, due to poor raising. I've gotten "BEWARE OF DOG!" pitbulls and rottweilers to befriend me simply by speaking kindly to them, and then over a period of days raising that to handsniffs, then petting. Misanthropic dogs are taught that behavior, which contradicts 10,000+ years of training. They don't enjoy being assholes. This is not to say dogs aren't naturally barky and suspicious of strangers; that is also part of their millenia of training. Lots of nice people are also suspicious of strangers. But aggressively attacking people is basically psychotic behavior for a social animal that considers humans part of its society.
IAmBroom 9mo ago
The quote doesn't insist all dogs are infinitely loyal. Your disgusting prejudice aside, I've never met a pitbull in public that wasn't sweet and loving - which reinforces my suspicion that the real problem with them is the sort of psychotic, uncaring owner they attract. When I was young, it was Dobermans that were demonized, and likewise the dog of choice for assholes who abused them as mere security devices.

gradschool 9mo ago

For another example of betrayal, one of the cronies in Katherine the Great's court always gave a dog to his girlfriends whenever he started a new relationship. Then if the dog ever greeted some other guy familiarly, he inferred he was falling out of favor. He probably learned that trick when someone did it to him, because he would let the other guy know how he was rumbled before graciously bowing out.

inahga 9mo ago

Mostly, if not entirely due to intentionally poor breeding practices. Who betrayed who?

IAmBroom 9mo ago
Mostly, if not entirely, due to poor raising. I've gotten "BEWARE OF DOG!" pitbulls and rottweilers to befriend me simply by speaking kindly to them, and then over a period of days raising that to handsniffs, then petting. Misanthropic dogs are taught that behavior, which contradicts 10,000+ years of training. They don't enjoy being assholes. This is not to say dogs aren't naturally barky and suspicious of strangers; that is also part of their millenia of training. Lots of nice people are also suspicious of strangers. But aggressively attacking people is basically psychotic behavior for a social animal that considers humans part of its society.

IAmBroom 9mo ago

The quote doesn't insist all dogs are infinitely loyal. Your disgusting prejudice aside, I've never met a pitbull in public that wasn't sweet and loving - which reinforces my suspicion that the real problem with them is the sort of psychotic, uncaring owner they attract. When I was young, it was Dobermans that were demonized, and likewise the dog of choice for assholes who abused them as mere security devices.