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All of a sudden??

by matt-p 9mo ago

All of a sudden??

lm28469 9mo ago
When a was a teenager, not so long ago really, everyone wanted to move the US and saw them as a global cultural power. The only people who truly disliked them were a minority anti capitalists, most people had positive views about Americans. Now wherever I look at, from far left to far right, virtually no one fully support the BS they're currently pushing, even the usual bootlicking lapdogs are staying silent. In recent German polls about which countries are considered partners the US is barely ahead of Russia.
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- rich_sasha 9mo ago
  > In recent German polls about which countries are considered partners the US is barely ahead of Russia. Interesting. I thought AfD is ahead in the polls and very pro-Russian, how do I reconcile these observations?
  - lm28469 9mo ago
    AfD gets 30% of votes, the turnout isn't even 80% so even if we consider 100% of them are brain dead putin balls garglers, which isn't even remotely true, that's 14m people out of ~60m people legally allowed to vote.
    - muwtyhg 9mo ago
      These numbers look pretty similar to Trump's voter base in 2024. He got 49% of the vote from the 60% of the population that can vote, so about 30% of all possible votes.
  - hermanzegerman 9mo ago
    Many people vote for them out of protest against the establishment. Also the typical AfD Voter doesn't like Trump or the US. Especially after they threatened some small port in Eastern Germany with sanctions over North Stream 2 (not that they liked them much before, but that fell on a very fertile soil)
  - ben_w 9mo ago
    > Interesting. I thought AfD is ahead in the polls and very pro-Russian, how do I reconcile these observations? Germany is a multi-party system where no single party is expected to get an absolute majority. AfD polling is around the 25% mark, which is about the same as the other highest contender, but the remaining 50% of the votes do actually count and get representation in government, they're not lost and forgotten, it's not winner-takes-all.

All of a sudden??

by matt-p 9mo ago

All of a sudden??

When a was a teenager, not so long ago really, everyone wanted to move the US and saw them as a global cultural power. The only people who truly disliked them were a minority anti capitalists, most people had positive views about Americans. Now wherever I look at, from far left to far right, virtually no one fully support the BS they're currently pushing, even the usual bootlicking lapdogs are staying silent. In recent German polls about which countries are considered partners the US is barely ahead of Russia.

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rich_sasha 9mo ago
> In recent German polls about which countries are considered partners the US is barely ahead of Russia. Interesting. I thought AfD is ahead in the polls and very pro-Russian, how do I reconcile these observations?
- lm28469 9mo ago
  AfD gets 30% of votes, the turnout isn't even 80% so even if we consider 100% of them are brain dead putin balls garglers, which isn't even remotely true, that's 14m people out of ~60m people legally allowed to vote.
  - muwtyhg 9mo ago
    These numbers look pretty similar to Trump's voter base in 2024. He got 49% of the vote from the 60% of the population that can vote, so about 30% of all possible votes.
- hermanzegerman 9mo ago
  Many people vote for them out of protest against the establishment. Also the typical AfD Voter doesn't like Trump or the US. Especially after they threatened some small port in Eastern Germany with sanctions over North Stream 2 (not that they liked them much before, but that fell on a very fertile soil)
- ben_w 9mo ago
  > Interesting. I thought AfD is ahead in the polls and very pro-Russian, how do I reconcile these observations? Germany is a multi-party system where no single party is expected to get an absolute majority. AfD polling is around the 25% mark, which is about the same as the other highest contender, but the remaining 50% of the votes do actually count and get representation in government, they're not lost and forgotten, it's not winner-takes-all.