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This is awesome. I'll have a cheaper ARM-based EC2 host please. Has anyone considered that this could also be for ARM-based servers instead of just Kindles? :-

by st3fan 14y ago

This is awesome. I'll have a cheaper ARM-based EC2 host please. Has anyone considered that this could also be for ARM-based servers instead of just Kindles? :-)

ruchirablog 14y ago
arggg really dude? I dont want my web site on that please!
- freehunter 14y ago
  Is there anything inherently wrong with ARM servers that give you legitimate reason to immediately balk at the suggestion? As far as I can tell, ARM servers are no less reliable or speedy as x86 servers. They just cost less to own and run. In fact, there's already a sizable precedence of ARM server clusters like EC2 (and including EC2). See: [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm [2] http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-releases-EC2-image-for-Ubuntu-ARM-Server-1585740.html http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-releases-EC... [3] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/07/your-very-own-arm-based-ubuntu-servers-in-the-cloud-for-free/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/07/your-v... [4] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5Nzk http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5N...
  - ruchirablog 14y ago
    Yes this argument is becoming true with time because ARM is really gaining phase. But we have Virtualization and its already cheap and works best at the moment. I dont see why anyone should go for separate ARM server ( in normal scenarios of course ) instead of using virtualization
eli 14y ago
I could be wrong, but I think this is only talking about TI's mobile baseband chips, not ARM processors.
- mtdev 14y ago
  If they are referring to TI's OMAP processors, then they typically feature multiple ARM cores with various media accelerators (http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt034b/swpt034b.pdf http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt034b/swpt034b.pdf). These are like all-in-one chips designed for mobile platforms that are optimized for displaying media on a LCD-ish display at minimum power. The OMAP offerings are pretty similar to chips from Broadcom or Samsung, however, it makes sense for them to get integrated with their biggest customer. They already have NDAs in place and TI probably has field engineers that essentially work for Amazon, they would just be transferring financial stake different production processes. Having said that, the reason that you probably don't want to run a EC2 instance on an OMAP, or any ARM for that matter, is because they are not 64bit compatible, they do not have good virtualization support, and you would not be taking advantage of various media/display capability.
  - eli 14y ago
    Well, it's a very poorly sourced article, but TI has been trying to unload its old baseband mobile chip division so it could focus on OMAP 4.
  - st3fan 14y ago
    They bought the company, not a specific type of chip. They can do whatever they want and steer this in any direction they want.

by st3fan 14y ago

This is awesome. I'll have a cheaper ARM-based EC2 host please. Has anyone considered that this could also be for ARM-based servers instead of just Kindles? :-)

ruchirablog 14y ago

arggg really dude? I dont want my web site on that please!

freehunter 14y ago
Is there anything inherently wrong with ARM servers that give you legitimate reason to immediately balk at the suggestion? As far as I can tell, ARM servers are no less reliable or speedy as x86 servers. They just cost less to own and run. In fact, there's already a sizable precedence of ARM server clusters like EC2 (and including EC2). See: [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm [2] http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-releases-EC2-image-for-Ubuntu-ARM-Server-1585740.html http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-releases-EC... [3] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/07/your-very-own-arm-based-ubuntu-servers-in-the-cloud-for-free/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/07/your-v... [4] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5Nzk http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5N...
- ruchirablog 14y ago
  Yes this argument is becoming true with time because ARM is really gaining phase. But we have Virtualization and its already cheap and works best at the moment. I dont see why anyone should go for separate ARM server ( in normal scenarios of course ) instead of using virtualization

eli 14y ago

I could be wrong, but I think this is only talking about TI's mobile baseband chips, not ARM processors.

mtdev 14y ago
If they are referring to TI's OMAP processors, then they typically feature multiple ARM cores with various media accelerators (http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt034b/swpt034b.pdf http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/swpt034b/swpt034b.pdf). These are like all-in-one chips designed for mobile platforms that are optimized for displaying media on a LCD-ish display at minimum power. The OMAP offerings are pretty similar to chips from Broadcom or Samsung, however, it makes sense for them to get integrated with their biggest customer. They already have NDAs in place and TI probably has field engineers that essentially work for Amazon, they would just be transferring financial stake different production processes. Having said that, the reason that you probably don't want to run a EC2 instance on an OMAP, or any ARM for that matter, is because they are not 64bit compatible, they do not have good virtualization support, and you would not be taking advantage of various media/display capability.
- eli 14y ago
  Well, it's a very poorly sourced article, but TI has been trying to unload its old baseband mobile chip division so it could focus on OMAP 4.
- st3fan 14y ago
  They bought the company, not a specific type of chip. They can do whatever they want and steer this in any direction they want.