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> DOM (scraping, ad blockers etc.) harder or impossible. This is a cat mouse fight, and Facebook already does some ultra-shady stuff like rendering a word as a
by gf000 10mo ago
> DOM (scraping, ad blockers etc.) harder or impossible.
This is a cat mouse fight, and Facebook already does some ultra-shady stuff like rendering a word as a list of randomly ordered divs for each character, and only using CSS to display in a readable way.
But it can't be made impossible, at the worst case we can always just capture the screen and use an AI to recognize ads, wasting a lot of energy. The same is true for cheating in video games and many forms of online integrity problems - I can just hire a good player who would play in my place, and no technology could recognize that.
- smallnix 10mo ago> no technology could recognize that. Perhaps require monitoring of the arm muscle electrical signals, build a profile, match the readings to the game actions and check that the profile matches the advertised player
- palata 10mo ago> ultra-shady stuff like rendering a word as a list of randomly ordered divs for each character, and only using CSS to display in a readable way. I wonder how much the developers writing that are being paid to be complete assholes.
- ljm 10mo agoKnowing what total comp is like for those companies, I'm sure Facebook more than exceeded the price one might put on ethics. I've personally resigned from positions for less and it hasn't cost me much comfort in life (maybe some career progression perhaps but, meh).
- strangegecko 10mo agoI can't speak for FB. But I know a local (non-US) real estate company which does crap like this (they also love to disable right click and detect when browser tools are open and programmatically close the tab/page when that happens), and they're not paying much. I'm guessing it's double of minimum wage, which isn't high here.
- draw_down 10mo ago[dead]
- pxc 10mo agoShouldn't this kind of thing be illegal as a matter of accessibility?
- CyberDildonics 10mo agoCan you link to the law you're talking about?
- pxc 10mo agoI'm not making a legal argument. If someone else would like to make one, though, I'd be happy to read it.
- panzi 10mo agoSince this is about something nobody wants to see (ads) my guess would be that it might be legal here.
- CyberDildonics 10mo agoShouldn't this kind of thing be illegal I'm not making a legal argument. Why would someone else make a legal argument for you? You're the one saying it should be illegal.
- palata 10mo agoThey say that they feel like it should be illegal. And you ask for the corresponding law, calling it a legal argument... Can you genuinely not see the disconnect here?
- DonHopkins 10mo ago[flagged]
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- jfengel 10mo agoI think that's hilarious. Can you point me to some documentation on that? Such as why they'd do it? (To make scraping and automation harder, perhaps?)