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>People wonder where all the money is going and there's no particularly good answer. The answer is welfare. That is the original sin of all of this, and the on

• hengistbury 9mo ago
  The answer is the ultra-wealthy. Those on welfare are getting increasingly poor, while the ultra-wealthy are getting increasingly wealthy. It's clear where the money is going, and it's not to poor people.
• AngryData 9mo ago
  Meanwhile we bail out large corporations on mere speculation they might fail. I don't know where you live, but around me a large chunk of the population have nothing to fail down to other than homelessness which is a huge drag upon the economy.
• Nursie 9mo ago
  That's about 25% of UK government spending. 33% if you include pensions. The UK does have an issue with a lowering number of people in productive work and ever more on various kinds of disability payout, it's true, but this - > You need to let people fail. Doesn't really follow.
  • jdasdf 9mo ago
    As per the UK government for 2026-2027 9.2 Chart D.2: Public sector spending 2026-27: Social protection - 400 b personal social services - 54b health - 294b Education - 145b industry agriculture and employment - 51b housing and environment - 51 billion That accounts for roughly 70% of public sector spending, not 33%. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/budget-2025-document/budget-2025-html#government-spending https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/budget-2025-docum...
    • zipy124 9mo ago
      If education is welfare then so is everything. Defence is welfare becuase before you might have to hire private security. Police and fire serviecs are welfare because they used to be private. etc....
      • jdasdf 9mo ago
        Yes, education is welfare. I'm not sure how anyone could possibly argue otherwise...
        • Nursie 9mo ago
          So, it's obvious where the money goes, it's welfare, because everything is welfare. 0% insight there then.
        • zipy124 9mo ago
          Ok so can you name me a single piece of government spending that isn't welfare Or are you advocating for governments to just cease existing all together.
• tonyedgecombe 9mo ago
  In the UK at least the biggest portion of welfare goes to the state pension. It’s hard to deal with that when people have been paying into the system for their whole working lives on the promise that they will be looked after in old age. It’s hard to see how you can fix this whilst pensioners continue to vote whilst young people don’t.
  • jdasdf 9mo ago
    >It’s hard to deal with that when people have been paying into the system for their whole working lives on the promise that they will be looked after in old age. They weren't paying "into the system". They were being taxed. Treat it for what it was, and stop feeding the pyramid scheme.
    • tonyedgecombe 9mo ago
      I had a promise that if I paid NI then I would receive the state pension. It might have been better not to make that promise but you can’t blame people for accepting it.
      • jdasdf 9mo ago
        Perhaps if people were burned for trusting electoral promises, they would be more mindful of their sustainability. Stop justifying pyramid schemes.
        • tonyedgecombe 9mo ago
          >Stop justifying pyramid schemes. It’s too late, those promises have been made. We have to lie in the bed we made. All you can do is stop making future promises.
          • jdasdf 9mo ago
            >It’s too late, those promises have been made. We have to lie in the bed we made. Yes, that involves treating it like pyramid schemes are treated. That means: - Arresting those involved in making them - Reclaiming all funds paid out - Refunding all funds paid in Anything else isn't treating it like the pyramid scheme it is.