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> EAC and Battleye They may be partnering with them but support for competitve titles is rather limited. For example, the most prominent Battleye title (iirc),

by c0balt 9mo ago

> EAC and Battleye They may be partnering with them but support for competitve titles is rather limited. For example, the most prominent Battleye title (iirc), Rainbow Six Siege, is not support on Linux via Steam due to Battleye blocking it. Valorant, LoL, BF6 or CoD also don't work ime.

napkinartist 9mo ago
They will need to sooner or later. Linux has more momentum than ever, and saying "players on steam deck/steam machine/bazzite can't play our game" seems like a losing long term strategy.
- bentcorner 9mo ago
  It's a balance between allowing linux and (theoretically) opening the door for more cheaters. Saying "players can't play our game because every match has a cheater" is just as bad. I can't say which has more weight but it's not a cut and dry situation, at least until Linux has anti-cheat. Right now developers could make an "unattested" queue for linux and other non-TPM windows systems. Which could also serve as a black-hole for cheaters, so maybe there's some value in that.
- immibis 9mo ago
  So, the problem with anticheat on Linux is there's no "safe" reference version of Linux that you can enforce to be running. This is a good thing. It's supposed to be modifiable. This fundamentally conflicts with the goal of anticheat which is to stop you modifying it. I predict they won't allow all Linux but only the specific version Valve puts on the Steam Deck/Machine, and if you modify it then your games won't run again.
  - charcircuit 9mo ago
    That hasn't stopped Android from offering attestation while they use Linux. >It's supposed to be modifiable. https://www.kernel.org/linux.html https://www.kernel.org/linux.html I have not seen that as a project goal.
Alupis 9mo ago
Particularly frustrating, because Rainbow Six Siege runs spectacularly on linux, but the moment you join a multiplayer session the anticheat forces a crash-to-desktop. For many of these games it's a choice. They choose not to support linux. Perhaps one day that will change. I've been playing online multiplayer games, including competitive FPS and more, for nearly 3 decades. Cheating has never been such a problem that it made me quit a game. So much of this is way overplayed by wannabe-super-sweat try-hards, thinking they're competing in high-stakes games. So we cede more and more control of our computer over to video game(!!) companies, going deep down the rabbit hole of kernel-level anti-cheat and worse to come. It's a freaking video game... have fun. If someone cheats, find a new server. It's really that simple.

by c0balt 9mo ago

napkinartist 9mo ago

They will need to sooner or later. Linux has more momentum than ever, and saying "players on steam deck/steam machine/bazzite can't play our game" seems like a losing long term strategy.

bentcorner 9mo ago
It's a balance between allowing linux and (theoretically) opening the door for more cheaters. Saying "players can't play our game because every match has a cheater" is just as bad. I can't say which has more weight but it's not a cut and dry situation, at least until Linux has anti-cheat. Right now developers could make an "unattested" queue for linux and other non-TPM windows systems. Which could also serve as a black-hole for cheaters, so maybe there's some value in that.
immibis 9mo ago
So, the problem with anticheat on Linux is there's no "safe" reference version of Linux that you can enforce to be running. This is a good thing. It's supposed to be modifiable. This fundamentally conflicts with the goal of anticheat which is to stop you modifying it. I predict they won't allow all Linux but only the specific version Valve puts on the Steam Deck/Machine, and if you modify it then your games won't run again.
- charcircuit 9mo ago
  That hasn't stopped Android from offering attestation while they use Linux. >It's supposed to be modifiable. https://www.kernel.org/linux.html https://www.kernel.org/linux.html I have not seen that as a project goal.

Alupis 9mo ago

Particularly frustrating, because Rainbow Six Siege runs spectacularly on linux, but the moment you join a multiplayer session the anticheat forces a crash-to-desktop. For many of these games it's a choice. They choose not to support linux. Perhaps one day that will change. I've been playing online multiplayer games, including competitive FPS and more, for nearly 3 decades. Cheating has never been such a problem that it made me quit a game. So much of this is way overplayed by wannabe-super-sweat try-hards, thinking they're competing in high-stakes games. So we cede more and more control of our computer over to video game(!!) companies, going deep down the rabbit hole of kernel-level anti-cheat and worse to come. It's a freaking video game... have fun. If someone cheats, find a new server. It's really that simple.