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I fear so much for the future of Iran. Iran needs to decide its future, free from outside powers. Iran's entire 20th and 21st centuries of paranoia and strife c

I fear so much for the future of Iran. Iran needs to decide its future, free from outside powers. Iran's entire 20th and 21st centuries of paranoia and strife can be traced back to, partly (imo mostly), to British, Russian, and eventually American interference, meddling, and domination in the 19th, 20th, and 21st century respectively. Iran will never have a happy store as long as it remains an "interests" for greater powers.

ukblewis 9mo ago
Certainly foreign powers caused a lot of damage to Iran, but nowhere near as much as the Islamic Regime and considering that is what, I hope, we are witnessing the overthrow of. I think that we have cause to be optimistic
- regularization 9mo ago
  What countries helped overthrow prime minister Mossadegh, who wanted to nationalize Iran's foreign owned oil, and installed a dictatorship? What countries backed the mullahs against Iran's secular and left opposition, helping SAVAK kill the opposition? In 1979 the US was working to prevent anti-anti-Russian forces from coming to power, not the mullahs.
  - derektank 9mo ago
    The clergy also backed the Shah’s auto-golpe in the 50s
    - hurricanepootis 9mo ago
      The clergy weren't explicitly backing the Shah, they were just fearful of anything like communism happening, since most communist countries/communists are aesthetes. Iranian clergy as an institution starting coming into political power, really, around the time of the Russian-Persian wars, were one of the highest ranking Shia scholars in Iran issues a fatwa supporting the war against Russia.
dataflow 9mo ago
Regardless of the powers that be, I don't see how it's possibly going to deal with the lack of water. Does a solution exist at all?
- ropable 9mo ago
  I came here to comment on this specific issue. The level of unsustainable groundwater extraction and inefficient consumption by agriculture and industry in Iran is just wild.
  - defrost 9mo ago
    > The level of unsustainable groundwater extraction and inefficient consumption by agriculture and industry in Iran is just wild. It's an important note that middle America is also currently speedrunning unsustainable levels of groundwater extraction and inefficient consumption by agriculture and industry. They've just not yet hit dust .. but they have achieved significant depletion and the projections aren't good. Interestingly both the Saudi's and the Chinese operate sizable ag operations in the US and export that s/water/food/ back to their home countries.
    - actionfromafar 9mo ago
      Extract resources and move on. Smart of China and Saudi to poop overseas.

ukblewis 9mo ago

Certainly foreign powers caused a lot of damage to Iran, but nowhere near as much as the Islamic Regime and considering that is what, I hope, we are witnessing the overthrow of. I think that we have cause to be optimistic

regularization 9mo ago
What countries helped overthrow prime minister Mossadegh, who wanted to nationalize Iran's foreign owned oil, and installed a dictatorship? What countries backed the mullahs against Iran's secular and left opposition, helping SAVAK kill the opposition? In 1979 the US was working to prevent anti-anti-Russian forces from coming to power, not the mullahs.
- derektank 9mo ago
  The clergy also backed the Shah’s auto-golpe in the 50s
  - hurricanepootis 9mo ago
    The clergy weren't explicitly backing the Shah, they were just fearful of anything like communism happening, since most communist countries/communists are aesthetes. Iranian clergy as an institution starting coming into political power, really, around the time of the Russian-Persian wars, were one of the highest ranking Shia scholars in Iran issues a fatwa supporting the war against Russia.

dataflow 9mo ago

Regardless of the powers that be, I don't see how it's possibly going to deal with the lack of water. Does a solution exist at all?

ropable 9mo ago
I came here to comment on this specific issue. The level of unsustainable groundwater extraction and inefficient consumption by agriculture and industry in Iran is just wild.
- defrost 9mo ago
  > The level of unsustainable groundwater extraction and inefficient consumption by agriculture and industry in Iran is just wild. It's an important note that middle America is also currently speedrunning unsustainable levels of groundwater extraction and inefficient consumption by agriculture and industry. They've just not yet hit dust .. but they have achieved significant depletion and the projections aren't good. Interestingly both the Saudi's and the Chinese operate sizable ag operations in the US and export that s/water/food/ back to their home countries.
  - actionfromafar 9mo ago
    Extract resources and move on. Smart of China and Saudi to poop overseas.