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> This may highlight to some folks abroad the importance of the US's 2nd Amendment, and an armed civilian population I don't think this highlight that at all.
by embedding-shape 10mo ago
> This may highlight to some folks abroad the importance of the US's 2nd Amendment, and an armed civilian population
I don't think this highlight that at all. Judging by what has happened so far, the people who have the guns join the tyranny rather than oppose it. Why would it be any different in Iran?
- Alupis 10mo agoYou can look at historical revolutions - going back to the beginning of time - to see your statement is obviously false. An armed civilian population is one that can enact revolution. A disarmed population is one that gets killed, beaten and controlled.
- hannasanarion 10mo agoNo rebellion or revolt had ever been successful without arms supplied from outside sponsors. Random personal small arms that a bunch of people just happen to have at home are not enough to win a revolutionary war against a professional military. Self defense pistols and hunting rifles don't win wars, artillery does.
- zozbot234 10mo ago> Random personal small arms that a bunch of people just happen to have at home are not enough to win a revolutionary war against a professional military. They're absolutely enough to tip the scales in favor of those within that professional military who would rather support the prospective revolution. Such people will definitely exist given a widespread revolt against a violently oppressive regime.
- WillPostForFood 10mo agoRussian Revolution? French Revolution?
- hannasanarion 10mo ago* or mass-scale mutinies from the military itself giving the revolutionaries access to artillery, tanks, planes, and ships while the regime has none.
- keketi 10mo agoHow about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Nepalese_Gen_Z_protests#9_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Nepalese_Gen_Z_protests#9... September 9, 2025 - Protesters storm the Nepalese parliament, ransacking it and setting it on fire. Homes of leading politicians are also torched and the politicians themselves attacked. Soon thereafter, the prime minister resigned along with other ministers and the president dissolved the parliament and scheduled a new election. I think that counts as a successful rebellion or revolt.
- hannasanarion 10mo agoThe Gen Z revolution would have gone nowhere had the Nepalese Military not launched a coup, removed the existing government from power at gunpoint, and asked the protesters who to replace them with. So, fine, there's a third condition: when the entire military mutinies, leaving the regime with no armed defenders.
- runlaszlorun 10mo agoIoT and clean comms do. Yes random small arms make quite a difference in many scenarios. I can say this with zero commentary on whether one feels society broadly should have more guns.
- esseph 10mo agoEhhhh. I know a LOT of folks in the US that are regular citizens with plate carriers, night vision, thermals, suppressors, and forced-reset triggers. A lot of them have better training that most leg infantry, and many are veterans.
- actionfromafar 10mo agoBesides, if you start to turn random American cities into Gaza style rubble with artillery, the military will also break into factions.
- rfrey 10mo agoBut what do you do when the most vocal proponents of an armed populace support the tyrant?
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- esseph 10mo agoThen it's good to be a Gray Man/Woman.