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I can't wait to hear stories from Linus' kid's childhoods.

by rib3ye 9mo ago

CuriouslyC 9mo ago
Totally different. Linus is a jerk for justice, Steve was just a narcissistic asshole.
- rootusrootus 9mo ago
  So you think now. A few years after Linus is dead maybe the real truth will come out, when he won't be around to defend his legacy.
  - razingeden 9mo ago
    I thought it was already pretty well established that Torvalds is a jerk? Or, at a minimum, somewhat petulant. But also a good example of someone’s accomplishments .. arguably being worth something even if that’s true. I made my whole existence off of Linus’s handiwork and owe him a debt of gratitude for it. I probably still get more in monthly residuals than 90% of the people who wrote anything I deployed. Who cares what I think of anyone personally? I’d hate to be so deranged about anyone that I can’t see any good in their accomplishments. I’m not exactly Miss Manners in the professional or personal realm either, don’t let me cast the first stone. Id even go as far as saying that Linus’s are way more important and that Steve’s destroyed society but that’s enough out of me. Even if that’s my opinion, I’m still saying that about a trillion dollar company and that’s still someone’s yardstick for success. Genius is genius, accomplishments are accomplishments … and god what a grey and insecure and screwed up IT world this would be if neither of those people ever existed and Microsoft ruled the world. Either we wouldn’t even have functional cash registers let alone any other technical pillars or infrastructure… or we’d all be in our rightful BSD utopia right about now.
    - CuriouslyC 9mo ago
      To emphasize the difference between Linus and Steve. Steve seemed to be 100% an asshole when he wasn't performing, whereas Linus is (afaik) mostly very opinionated and doesn't care about being diplomatic at all, but not fundamentally a bad human being.
  - karmakurtisaani 9mo ago
    Eh, pretty sure it would be out by now.
  - BLKNSLVR 9mo ago
    There were things about Jobs around before he died, I'm pretty sure. The denial of paternity of his first born being one of them. (I think that was relatively well known well before he died)
- rib3ye 9mo ago
  I believe the point here is to evaluate if we're cool with how we treated our kids being part of our legacy.

I can't wait to hear stories from Linus' kid's childhoods.

by rib3ye 9mo ago

I can't wait to hear stories from Linus' kid's childhoods.

CuriouslyC 9mo ago

Totally different. Linus is a jerk for justice, Steve was just a narcissistic asshole.

rootusrootus 9mo ago
So you think now. A few years after Linus is dead maybe the real truth will come out, when he won't be around to defend his legacy.
- razingeden 9mo ago
  I thought it was already pretty well established that Torvalds is a jerk? Or, at a minimum, somewhat petulant. But also a good example of someone’s accomplishments .. arguably being worth something even if that’s true. I made my whole existence off of Linus’s handiwork and owe him a debt of gratitude for it. I probably still get more in monthly residuals than 90% of the people who wrote anything I deployed. Who cares what I think of anyone personally? I’d hate to be so deranged about anyone that I can’t see any good in their accomplishments. I’m not exactly Miss Manners in the professional or personal realm either, don’t let me cast the first stone. Id even go as far as saying that Linus’s are way more important and that Steve’s destroyed society but that’s enough out of me. Even if that’s my opinion, I’m still saying that about a trillion dollar company and that’s still someone’s yardstick for success. Genius is genius, accomplishments are accomplishments … and god what a grey and insecure and screwed up IT world this would be if neither of those people ever existed and Microsoft ruled the world. Either we wouldn’t even have functional cash registers let alone any other technical pillars or infrastructure… or we’d all be in our rightful BSD utopia right about now.
  - CuriouslyC 9mo ago
    To emphasize the difference between Linus and Steve. Steve seemed to be 100% an asshole when he wasn't performing, whereas Linus is (afaik) mostly very opinionated and doesn't care about being diplomatic at all, but not fundamentally a bad human being.
- karmakurtisaani 9mo ago
  Eh, pretty sure it would be out by now.
- BLKNSLVR 9mo ago
  There were things about Jobs around before he died, I'm pretty sure. The denial of paternity of his first born being one of them. (I think that was relatively well known well before he died)
rib3ye 9mo ago
I believe the point here is to evaluate if we're cool with how we treated our kids being part of our legacy.