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To make sure history doesn't only remember the good things like their accomplishments. He was often really mean in person, that's pretty clear from his biograph

by wolvoleo 10mo ago

To make sure history doesn't only remember the good things like their accomplishments. He was often really mean in person, that's pretty clear from his biography (and I also heard from some people who met him). Seeing him remembered as a tech saint is weird then. I'm glad I never worked for Apple while he was there. Though I have unfortunately worked for someone with very similar traits. Even though he is dead and can no longer improve himself, people will use him as a role model and idolize all the bad stuff too.

jjtheblunt 10mo ago
I did work for Apple while he was there, and he was entirely decent. I came to believe that there was a bratty entitled personality from his 20s that gave rise to most the jerk stories people reference, and that he wised up after being ousted (probably for being that jerk). He was essentially exiled for the better part of a decade.
- onlypassingthru 10mo ago
  The jerk was there from the beginning. A friend's mom was temp-hired by two young guys, both named Steve, to help them set up their first company office. She liked one of the Steves but declined the offer to join their new company as the first office manager because the other Steve was an a-hole.
  - jjtheblunt 10mo ago
    that fits the early Steve vs post firing learned humility of Steve that was there after NeXT merged [ edit : typo ]
- IAmBroom 10mo ago
  You worked for a multi-thousand-employee company, and therefore can certify the moral fiber behind closed doors of the CEO?
  - jjtheblunt 10mo ago
    in person, not behind closed doors. did you work there and interact with him?
toast0 10mo ago
> Seeing him remembered as a tech saint is weird then. Hero worship is always pretty weird. I wish we would do less of it in general. But for Steve Jobs, I feel like negative reports about his character were pretty well known during his life and after his death. I don't feel like I've seen a lot of positive only content about him now that his death isn't so recent (maybe a little bit in the context of people hating on current Apple products), unlike some other celebrities where people seem to forget all of the misconduct (alleged or proven) during their lifetime.
46493168 10mo ago
>To make sure history doesn't only remember the good things like their accomplishments. This horse has been beat to death. Every reddit post that has Jobs name in it covers this. Same with John Lennon.

jjtheblunt 10mo ago

I did work for Apple while he was there, and he was entirely decent. I came to believe that there was a bratty entitled personality from his 20s that gave rise to most the jerk stories people reference, and that he wised up after being ousted (probably for being that jerk). He was essentially exiled for the better part of a decade.

onlypassingthru 10mo ago
The jerk was there from the beginning. A friend's mom was temp-hired by two young guys, both named Steve, to help them set up their first company office. She liked one of the Steves but declined the offer to join their new company as the first office manager because the other Steve was an a-hole.
- jjtheblunt 10mo ago
  that fits the early Steve vs post firing learned humility of Steve that was there after NeXT merged [ edit : typo ]
IAmBroom 10mo ago
You worked for a multi-thousand-employee company, and therefore can certify the moral fiber behind closed doors of the CEO?
- jjtheblunt 10mo ago
  in person, not behind closed doors. did you work there and interact with him?

toast0 10mo ago

> Seeing him remembered as a tech saint is weird then. Hero worship is always pretty weird. I wish we would do less of it in general. But for Steve Jobs, I feel like negative reports about his character were pretty well known during his life and after his death. I don't feel like I've seen a lot of positive only content about him now that his death isn't so recent (maybe a little bit in the context of people hating on current Apple products), unlike some other celebrities where people seem to forget all of the misconduct (alleged or proven) during their lifetime.

46493168 10mo ago

>To make sure history doesn't only remember the good things like their accomplishments. This horse has been beat to death. Every reddit post that has Jobs name in it covers this. Same with John Lennon.